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79. I read that the human trafficking business is booming, bigger than it's ever been.

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We can do better than Hillary Clinton. [View all] Music Man May 2013 OP

She was my pick in 2008, not so sure now. SlimJimmy May 2013 #1

Out of 8 candiates in 2008. Fuddnik May 2013 #64

So both Dodd and Clinton are both ranked #8? neffernin May 2013 #77

Reading comprehension? Fuddnik May 2013 #177

How did you meet Sen. dodd? alp227 May 2013 #147

This was in late 2007, before the first primaries or caucuses. Fuddnik May 2013 #179

I don't think Joe Biden drinks. It's infuriating too because the wingnuts are always making fun of Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #229

You're right -- Joe doesn't drink. Never has. gateley May 2013 #248

He doesn't touch the stuff. They're using ethnic stereotyping on him. It's terribly classless. nt MADem May 2013 #272

Out with the old and in with the new. And I'm not talking about age. randome May 2013 #2

especially DLC/Third Wayers nt antigop May 2013 #99

Hopefully, someone in their 40's who is comfortable with technology SoCalDem May 2013 #120

You must be very young to state this. Beacool May 2013 #122

I am 64 SoCalDem May 2013 #173

Kudos to you! randome May 2013 #187

ditto 90-percent May 2013 #202

So then vote for a LAN guy. Beacool May 2013 #205

I'm not sure you can fully understand the people you are governing... randome May 2013 #206

I'm not sure about that. Beacool May 2013 #210

Well I'm sixty-three and I grew up with modern technology, where were you? xtraxritical May 2013 #207

There's "modern technology", and then there's modern technology SoCalDem May 2013 #215

I'm pretty sure your President is proficient with current technology and he gets all xtraxritical May 2013 #340

I'd rather have someone who knows 20th Century US History and "grew up" in a pre-Reagan America, whathehell May 2013 #214

Very good point! Because too many have white-washed Reagan's reign of corporate terror BlueCaliDem May 2013 #227

Exactly Whathehell liberalmike27 May 2013 #234

Thank you. As a boomer who grew up in the 50's,60's, this country is almost foreign to me whathehell May 2013 #246

I'm the same age and feel the same way, spare me from conservatives, they're so austere. xtraxritical May 2013 #338

Absolutely....Had anyone told us, back in our twenties, that this is the America we'd be living in whathehell May 2013 #342

Just because YOU don't understand technology doesn't mean the rest of us 55+ don't Matariki May 2013 #277

Hey Bea! Well, my 65 year old Mom still won't text me.... Jennicut May 2013 #243

Jerry brown is older DonCoquixote May 2013 #166

What a bunch of ageist crap your post is. Matariki May 2013 #276

If we can field "old-style" FDR candidates, then we can Progress. dotymed May 2013 #183

Don't quit mid-tide! randome May 2013 #193

What do you mean by "field"? whathehell May 2013 #223

She's a 3rd Way triangulating warhawk. No thanks. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #3

Yep...you got that right!! Me too....no thanks. haikugal May 2013 #27

And those are some of her better qualities. Ikonoklast May 2013 #34

Yes she is. 99Forever May 2013 #50

Ever. DJ13 May 2013 #55

Likewise. Fuddnik May 2013 #65

Welcome, President Cruz! psiman May 2013 #116

You're welcome to be unprincipled... 99Forever May 2013 #135

letting any GOP person into the whitehouse DonCoquixote May 2013 #167

Nope. 99Forever May 2013 #181

Bingo! Fuddnik May 2013 #196

Yeah, because it's all about YOU, isn't it? BlueCaliDem May 2013 #228

Obama is not inspiring me to want a compromiser or a DLC Democrat next time. JDPriestly May 2013 #160

Because you think (wrongly) Hillary is too compromised...you'll help get a Rethug elected? Auntie Bush May 2013 #319

What difference is there between a DLC Dem and a Republican? JDPriestly May 2013 #330

That's ridiculous! You need to do some homework and study up. Auntie Bush May 2013 #339

Blaming the Bush years on Nader is asinine and childish. Not a good start rhett o rick May 2013 #190

No, it's the painful truth. Just look at the posts on this thread alone BlueCaliDem May 2013 #232

I damn well remember the past. rawtribe May 2013 #255

"Same shit that I've seen in 2000, and it needs to be nipped in the bud." rhett o rick May 2013 #268

+1. Blaming 2000 on Nader is as effective and logical as the Republicans' belief that they lose winter is coming May 2013 #304

Yep. Same shit that I've seen in 2000, and it's alive and well here. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #306

Here's the deal. You choose a candidate that disparages progressives, then you are on your own. rhett o rick May 2013 #322

Here's the deal. Don't take yourself so seriously. It's childish and self-defeating. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #337

I have never, ever sat home. I in my experience it's the liberals/progressives that go door to door, rhett o rick May 2013 #343

I'm seeing people who don't want another centrist. That's not the same as anti-Democrat. n/t winter is coming May 2013 #305

Read their posts. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #307

They don't want another centrist, period. winter is coming May 2013 #309

It's not what they want. It's what can WIN for the general good. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #310

Oh, goody, another lecture about the perfect being the enemy of the good. winter is coming May 2013 #315

It's not a lecture. It's reality. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #341

That's not even close to reality. winter is coming May 2013 #353

That's a fucking tired argument. Fantastic Anarchist May 2013 #219

You mean the Bush/USSC criminal treasonous 'decision' that stole an election and gave it sabrina 1 May 2013 #261

The first Canadian born President since Chester Arthur Capt. Obvious May 2013 #290

Same here. Things are changing, the old ways are dying and people are far more informed now sabrina 1 May 2013 #132

yes...that's where I'm focusing, also. KoKo May 2013 #217

Me as well. nt Demo_Chris May 2013 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl May 2013 #54

Touche! Carolina May 2013 #111

Hear olivelove May 2013 #186

I have a repub friend who thinks Ron Paul is the bees knees & she told me CrispyQ May 2013 #222

Same here. Summer pf 2010, she was absolutely truedelphi May 2013 #301

At the moment, I'm interested in O'Malley deutsey May 2013 #4

Since you and somebody else mentioned him, I looked him up. gateley May 2013 #249

The jury is still out for me in some ways. deutsey May 2013 #275

Thanks for the input. gateley May 2013 #283

And I'm so eager to go through another campaign with Terry McAuliffe and Mark Penn on my TV screen. Music Man May 2013 #5

Or Axelrod and Rahm .... sabrina 1 May 2013 #262

Primary get the red out May 2013 #6

You're right, HILLARY\WARREN 2016 > Hillary :-)...I'm for Hillary, I believe she's changed enough... uponit7771 May 2013 #7

Senators like Jeff Merkley or Elizabeth Warren... cascadiance May 2013 #8

I love Merkley, but I doubt he'd do it davidpdx May 2013 #142

he's my senator, too hopemountain May 2013 #331

I love the idea of Feingold -- don't know that much about Merkley. gateley May 2013 #247

Bernie would be ideal too. But it would be difficult as a third party candidate at this point... cascadiance May 2013 #257

I think the country is so fed up, it will respond to someone who seems "strong". gateley May 2013 #269

Merkley was the senator who lead the effort to try and get a talking filibuster earlier... cascadiance May 2013 #278

My sense is that Hillary and Warren may have ideological differences, so don't see gateley May 2013 #284

The more people push Hillary, the less acceptable I find her or any other centrist. n/t winter is coming May 2013 #9

That makes you somewhat ... malleable .. does it not? 11 Bravo May 2013 #13

Martin O'Malleable? Music Man May 2013 #14

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #58

If you voted for Bobby Haircut and didn't feel slimy, you may be in the wrong place. 11 Bravo May 2013 #67

Plus the Rain Tax is a RW talking point here in Md. hootinholler May 2013 #71

Is he? I'm just learning about him. Why do you say that? gateley May 2013 #250

In the sense, that I'm making the transition from "would reluctantly vote for but winter is coming May 2013 #16

We may not like it, but you better learn to love it AngryAmish May 2013 #10

We are indeed stuck with her customerserviceguy May 2013 #178

I won't claim to be as liberal as some members of this site... Parable Arable May 2013 #11

Silly you. You have to accept the "inevitability" meme. nt antigop May 2013 #12

I like her, but I don't want her to be the nominee; if she wins closeupready May 2013 #15

Agreed. Parable Arable May 2013 #17

+1 Ishoutandscream2 May 2013 #38

Yes, I support Warren too. n/t Cleita May 2013 #76

I will support her if nominated. mysuzuki2 May 2013 #18

Welcome to DU. NCTraveler May 2013 #19

I get that and all but.. bamacrat May 2013 #20

I would prefer Elizabeth Warren, but I think using "warmly embracing Kissinger" as a rationale Warren DeMontague May 2013 #21

Your point is well-taken, Music Man May 2013 #25

Your point is well-taken, too, so I switched it to "a bit" Warren DeMontague May 2013 #35

Yeah, because Obama is such a progressive. Beacool May 2013 #123

There is a big slice of Obama Primary/caucus supporters who are quite willing to get behind Hillary. Pirate Smile May 2013 #152

She won't stop until everyone at DU despises Hillary. I'm a loyal Democrat.... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #159

Please, selective memory. Beacool May 2013 #200

"It has never been Clinton friendly". Do you think you've contributed to that? Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #235

His wife? Beacool May 2013 #327

"So, you want people to "let go". Easier said than done." Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #373

This could be a very unified party but some of the Clinton folks - like Rendell - have got to stop Pirate Smile May 2013 #203

I wonder if there is a downside to promoting her this early, though. randome May 2013 #204

The media is promoting her this early. Beacool May 2013 #209

Ditto to everything you just said! Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #236

It's not an impulse. Beacool May 2013 #198

Compared to Hillitary, yes he is. Whisp May 2013 #161

Still using RW nicknames for Democrats, I see. Beacool May 2013 #199

I don't think the RW would mind that name so much. Whisp May 2013 #212

stil more progressive DonCoquixote May 2013 #168

She's her own person. Beacool May 2013 #201

I know enough about what she did do DonCoquixote May 2013 #332

See what Pirate Smile said below. I supported Obama (reluctantly) over Hillary in the primaries. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #375

Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy. - Henry Kissinger L0oniX May 2013 #33

I get it. I do. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #36

Never hit a man with glasses. Music Man May 2013 #37

heh heh Warren DeMontague May 2013 #39

"I don't talk to or shake hands with war criminals" ...that would work for me. n/t L0oniX May 2013 #41

Exactly. Talk about palin' around with terrorists. JEB May 2013 #138

We can do better than Hillary, but I'd support her if she ends up the nominee. SunSeeker May 2013 #22

I like Hillary as Sec'y of State. She's formidable. As President ... DirkGently May 2013 #23

Elizabeth has NO foreign policy experience. With all that is going on around the world Auntie Bush May 2013 #45

NO foreign policy experience? "Some say" we've elected presidents with only two years bike man May 2013 #61

Yeah, and he's such a good negotiator. Beacool May 2013 #124

And then we did it the second time. We don't learn our lessons well. nt bike man May 2013 #158

He has no tread marks on his back Whisp May 2013 #376

I like Hillary's F.P. as a diplomat. Not so much as Commander-In-Chief DirkGently May 2013 #82

more offshoring free trade agreements..just like Bill. No thank you. nt antigop May 2013 #91

The problem with our foreign Carolina May 2013 #112

What would we win? Demo_Chris May 2013 #140

I believe the current president had no prior foreign policy experience burnodo May 2013 #308

"the left want Clinton" ...WTF dude don't even try to frame it as a "left" thing. L0oniX May 2013 #24

President Hillary Clinton sounds great to me! hrmjustin May 2013 #26

Hillary45 to continue Barack Obama's agenda forever. Get used to this picture. graham4anything May 2013 #28

That would be cool to have Joe as VP again! Walk away May 2013 #80

I'd like for Bidden to Run for VP again with Hillary for President. Auntie Bush May 2013 #100

Barack's agenda Carolina May 2013 #113

She is no Obama - the Clinton's are not interested in much other than their own selves and Whisp May 2013 #377

No vote is money is taken from Banks/Wall Street highmindedhavi May 2013 #29

Change you can believe in Milliesmom May 2013 #30

I'll come right out and say it--- No Vested Interest May 2013 #31

This is exactly what I am starting to think -- O'Malley/Warren Samantha May 2013 #137

No, telegenic is not the be-all and end-all, but No Vested Interest May 2013 #157

K&R forestpath May 2013 #32

She's too old. She will be 69 by the election. broiles May 2013 #40

she also sold out the American worker -- as did Bill. antigop May 2013 #44

Still waiting for Hillary to tell us what laid off IT workers and engineers are supposed to train fo DJ13 May 2013 #72

I read that the human trafficking business is booming, bigger than it's ever been. eilen May 2013 #79

the DLC agenda! nt antigop May 2013 #86

bush 4 nt msongs May 2013 #42

I agree about other better choices over Hillary... TRoN33 May 2013 #43

The Castro brothers have never won a Statewide race... brooklynite May 2013 #92

A very simple question... brooklynite May 2013 #95

So what if they made money? Beacool May 2013 #125

yeh, and the rest of us lazy poor bums just don't work hard enough. thanks. n/t Whisp May 2013 #162

Yes! I was thinking Andrew Cuomo too! alp227 May 2013 #149

As a New Yorker, I don't want Andrew. Bohunk68 May 2013 #185

65% in new poll prefer her OKNancy May 2013 #46

Hillary would be fine IF......... DFW May 2013 #47

I think we might need some new blood? kentuck May 2013 #48

If I had gone into a coma in 2007 SheilaT May 2013 #49

Obama is charismatic, good-looking, and a good speaker. Other than all that stuff... Eleanors38 May 2013 #98

I agree with you Shelia davidpdx May 2013 #146

Good post -- sage advice. :-) gateley May 2013 #254

Well, if you income puts you in the top 6%, bvar22 May 2013 #51

How much does Warren earn? Beacool May 2013 #126

If she gets the nomination, I'll vote for her. ColesCountyDem May 2013 #52

That's about the only support she'll get from me. hobbit709 May 2013 #56

Um, duh, we can do better than her. Apophis May 2013 #53

We can, but we won't Taverner May 2013 #57

We MUST do better than Hillary Clinton. woo me with science May 2013 #59

Count me out of your "we." I like her. If I want to hear people trashing her, I would turn on MADem May 2013 #60

Fortunately the "we" of DU are a tiny and marginal group OKNancy May 2013 #62

There's a bright spot! Yee haw! nt MADem May 2013 #68

I'm going to be happy to see Hillary win the nomination and the General Election. stevenleser May 2013 #70

Add "1" to the "inevitability" meme counter. nt antigop May 2013 #83

Add 1 to the people I have on ignore. You've earned it. nt stevenleser May 2013 #90

You've earned the "inevitability" meme count. nt antigop May 2013 #94

That was good. Beacool May 2013 #129

Works for me...! nt MADem May 2013 #110

Yes Please amuse bouche May 2013 #252

+100,000,000 Auntie Bush May 2013 #321

Thank you. Beacool May 2013 #128

Some days, I wonder if the TOS and SOPs are just suggestions! MADem May 2013 #242

This site has always been unfriendly to the Clintons. Beacool May 2013 #259

Well, if they're spending all their energy hunched over their keyboards "hating" here, MADem May 2013 #263

Good point, hadn't thought of that. Beacool May 2013 #326

He's up against a pretty boy named Gabriel Gomez, from Los Angeles. MADem May 2013 #335

Rupert Murdoch likes her too. He even threw a party for her. So not to worry, she may sabrina 1 May 2013 #134

What an absurdly petty thing to say, and it shows your lack of understanding of the nuance MADem May 2013 #141

Facts are petty now? YOU mentioned Faux, I presented a fact. And you launched into yet another sabrina 1 May 2013 #143

Yeah, I said I didn't watch it--twice. That didn't stop you, though. MADem May 2013 #148

Well, if you consider yourself to be superior to the rest of us who have very good reasons to sabrina 1 May 2013 #150

Well, IF is a short word with a lot of portent, and IF I wanted to engage in fruitless MADem May 2013 #151

We're on the same page, MADem. I realize that I'm on the opposite side of some of my Obama... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #237

+1,000 !!!! nt MADem May 2013 #241

Ditto. It doesn't matter ultimately whether or not I like him/her, what matters gateley May 2013 #251

Thank You! Absolutely nothing wrong with principles, but they're useless without the ability to win Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #273

Allen West...now there's a principled nutjob!! MADem May 2013 #359

YES WE CAN! datasuspect May 2013 #63

But the Republicans cannot! Coyotl May 2013 #66

We can azmesa207 May 2013 #69

I think we need some new blood -- even though I'm still HUGELY supportive of Biden. gateley May 2013 #73

Biden in a younger version- No Vested Interest May 2013 #85

You're the second who's mentioned O'Malley. I'll check him out. gateley May 2013 #101

We could have done better than "movement centrist" Obama too Maven May 2013 #74

I agree, but let's not overlook the centrists' backup threat, Andrew Cuomo. Jim Lane May 2013 #75

I'd vote for her if she's nominated. Shrike47 May 2013 #78

Sure we can & who ever they are will easily win too. hahahahahaha Little Star May 2013 #81

Howard Dean and... watoos May 2013 #84

Because Dean did so well last time? brooklynite May 2013 #89

Gah. Dean is to the right of Obama and HRC Recursion May 2013 #114

How he did it? He's a smart man. MADem May 2013 #265

This... Jamaal510 May 2013 #367

Fail. What is your agenda here? nm rhett o rick May 2013 #324

Howard Dean??????? Beacool May 2013 #130

I take it you're new to politics? Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #356

I'm surprised that graham4whatever has not weighed in on his favourite candidate. madinmaryland May 2013 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick May 2013 #325

He has a star--I don't think he's a sock puppet. MADem May 2013 #366

Not sure why it's so bold, it's not illegal to be a sock. rhett o rick May 2013 #368

Well, I thought Skinner said it's not illegal to have a second account if you have a valid reason MADem May 2013 #369

First of all I dont really care. rhett o rick May 2013 #370

Maybe he's just enthusiastic. MADem May 2013 #372

Yes but flamingdem May 2013 #88

*Never* marry or vote for anyone using "he/she might improve" as a reason. winter is coming May 2013 #93

I'm okay with her the way she is flamingdem May 2013 #96

individual mandates aren't a "watered-down" provision. Deep13 May 2013 #97

Too true. n/t Laelth May 2013 #105

Yes, We Can! bigwillq May 2013 #102

None of them are any more left than the other ecstatic May 2013 #103

Um ... I find this OP puzzling. n/t Laelth May 2013 #104

IMHO, the reason people keep picking Clinton by default is because TrollBuster9090 May 2013 #106

We need a fresh face and those aren't it newmember May 2013 #115

No, none of those women are acceptable. Napolitano with her anti-Constitutional sabrina 1 May 2013 #264

Gore2016. AtomicKitten May 2013 #107

She's not my ideal Prophet 451 May 2013 #108

Totally agree Carolina May 2013 #109

The DLC will go the way of the "Bourbon Democrats" of a century ago... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #117

The DLC folded over two years ago....only here, on DU, does there exist people who still think it MADem May 2013 #145

The DLC is a state of mind.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #154

No it isn't. It was a fundraising (emphasized) and policy - postulating outfit. It is no more. MADem May 2013 #155

Pssst.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #163

Pssst..... MADem May 2013 #266

My point is that the mindset of the DLC takes longer to kill off.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #281

Well, "the mindset of the DLC" is not a borg-like entity. MADem May 2013 #282

You know as well as I do about the results of a survey where contituents were more liberal,... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #285

My objections in this thread have to do with false characterizations of politicians for purposes of MADem May 2013 #289

Don't get me wrong,..the Democrats have swung to the left,... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #291

They are people who will do what they need to do to get the best deal they can possibly get. MADem May 2013 #295

We aren't going to adavnce the cause if we keep selling out. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #298

No one's gonna get elected to do any advancing if they tack too far either way. nt MADem May 2013 #317

Oh, come on. That's DC talk.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #329

It's true. But Republicans don't always embrace Conservatism--not by a long shot. MADem May 2013 #336

The attitude is the voters need to be tricked. Both parties do it.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #346

All politics is local. MADem May 2013 #347

If you want to play the "D" vs "R" game.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #349

California isn't really a "best" example, though.... MADem May 2013 #350

You miss the whole POINT of the "All politics is local" quote... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #351

Well of course that's what Speaker O'Neill meant. And I did not miss the point at all. MADem May 2013 #352

"How the hell do you think Mitt Fuckin' Romney became governor of MA?" Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #355

Because it's NOT HIS STATE and we KNEW IT. He was not born in MA. He did not live in MA. MADem May 2013 #358

Face it. The American People are beginning to reject Conservatives... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #360

That doesn't mean a Nebraska candidate can run with a New York platform. MADem May 2013 #361

Republicans reject the idea that "all politics is local" and they win.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #362

Well, Scott Brown didn't beat Elizabeth Warren... MADem May 2013 #363

That proved MY point. Everyone knew where she stood. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #364

All politics is local. MADem May 2013 #365

They just re-branded. Fuddnik May 2013 #220

Third Way is NOT the same outfit, and it's not "re-branded." MADem May 2013 #258

you clearly miss the point Carolina May 2013 #175

No--YOU miss the point. If the DLC was still a viable, lobbying, policy making and fund raising MADem May 2013 #270

First, this thread is about Carolina May 2013 #287

That's not true, either. Hillary was not the "original" DLCer. MADem May 2013 #288

More DLC? No thanks. nt hay rick May 2013 #118

I haven't forgiven her yellowwoodII May 2013 #119

Touche! Carolina May 2013 #174

Not to mention the coup in Honduras. Fuddnik May 2013 #221

The left wants Hillary? Beacool May 2013 #121

The "left" IS the base of the party, NOT the DLC/Third Way... cascadiance May 2013 #279

It depends. Whisp May 2013 #354

Wrong. Beacool May 2013 #357

What Democrat that you like has an equal to or better than chance of getting elected in 2016? MrScorpio May 2013 #127

well said NewJeffCT May 2013 #256

It's waaaaaaaaaaaaay too early to tell. jeff47 May 2013 #293

Hillary hasn't changed; Kissininger has reformed Martin Eden May 2013 #131

The Muslims hold grudges and don't forgive for thousands of years TOO! Auntie Bush May 2013 #320

It was a profound lack of judgment on her part Martin Eden May 2013 #344

Ha, ha! We have a new meme about the "inevitability" meme! antigop May 2013 #133

You are the anti-Graham4Anything poster! randome May 2013 #188

I'm the antiGOP, antiDLC, antiThirdway poster. antigop May 2013 #191

Nothing wrong with that! randome May 2013 #192

We better. TheKentuckian May 2013 #136

Of all the superficial, idiotic reasons for rejecting a csndidate... aquart May 2013 #144

Better Than Any Republican But Still.... colsohlibgal May 2013 #153

what bullshit spanone May 2013 #156

For fucks sake, give it a rest. If she wins, we win..... if she loses...we still can win Rowdyboy May 2013 #164

put this in neon DonCoquixote May 2013 #165

We have to get through 2014 first. GOTV and give Obama a Congress that will work with him Hekate May 2013 #169

OK! HILLARY IS 1000X better than ANY Republican. But she is not going to move the country forward Douglas Carpenter May 2013 #170

I Agree. mimi85 May 2013 #171

Easy votes here against HR Clinton. We'll go 3rd Party. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #172

I would love your proof that her plan would have been more compromised than his at the get go dsc May 2013 #176

Third Way/DLC'rs are not Progressives or Liberals harun May 2013 #180

Al Franken was a DLCer. You're saying he isn't a progressive, then? nt MADem May 2013 #260

Only Liberal/Progressive in the Senate is Sanders. Rest are free market Corporate Sellouts. harun May 2013 #299

Ah, the oracle has spoken, then. Everyone, go home, give up... nt MADem May 2013 #316

My dream Pres/Vice Pres ticket? Elizabeth Warren/ Michelle Obama....but Harriety May 2013 #182

We could have done better than Obama, too. LWolf May 2013 #184

Ahh to continue the pretense that we really still have a choice. rhett o rick May 2013 #189

Best part of all of this: ProSense May 2013 #194

!!! AtomicKitten May 2013 #218

Joe Biden haydukelives May 2013 #195

Not really BootinUp May 2013 #197

Hillary will win 2016 jimmyolsenblues May 2013 #208

Bingo Stuckinthebush May 2013 #226

It's great to be looking to the future, but... creativebliss May 2013 #211

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #213

I will not vote for another Clinton. Hubert Flottz May 2013 #216

A link to a DU poll below Tx4obama May 2013 #224

Yes, we can. magical thyme May 2013 #225

Totally Agree liberalmike27 May 2013 #230

This is about who can win, and Hillary can WIN. None of the candidates BlueCaliDem May 2013 #231

It's way, way, way too early to come to that conclusion. jeff47 May 2013 #294

flamebaitery DCBob May 2013 #233

What is her position on the costly trade agreements? grahamhgreen May 2013 #238

It's an excellent question. But don't expect any answers from the DLC/ThirdWayers. nt antigop May 2013 #244

there are also no answers on exactly what terrific things she did as SoS. Whisp May 2013 #267

No DLC Love Here - Hence No Hillary Love Either cantbeserious May 2013 #239

Let's not forget that the Koch brothers funded the Clintons' DLC... cascadiance May 2013 #280

Agreed - Koch Brothers Are An Anathema To Democracy cantbeserious May 2013 #312

"(inevitability) with which most on the left want Clinton to run in 2016" Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #240

+100 nt antigop May 2013 #245

I imagine we'll have primaries to sort it all out... LanternWaste May 2013 #253

That aura of inevitability was her undoing when Skidmore May 2013 #271

Hillary Clinton's health care plan included a public option. BlueCheese May 2013 #274

She has never won a competitive political race even once LittleBlue May 2013 #286

I think it's too early to think of this Yo_Mama May 2013 #292

Thank you! GoCubsGo May 2013 #296

When I do start thinking about this, Yo_Mama May 2013 #300

It was the first thing I considered in 2008. GoCubsGo May 2013 #302

It's cute that you think we have a choice. MrSlayer May 2013 #297

No we can't. LuvLoogie May 2013 #303

Well, it would be hard to find someone worse than Hillary..unless you're fond of the DLC. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #311

Wow. My first thread on this site, Music Man May 2013 #313

I don't get it Daninmo May 2013 #314

Yes We Can! Whisp May 2013 #318

I like Hillary. But, I love Kucinich. flvegan May 2013 #323

Because he shoots himself in the foot DonCoquixote May 2013 #333

We can also do worse. much worse. William769 May 2013 #328

Indeed we can DonCoquixote May 2013 #334

The problem with "centrists" is they are ALWAYS corporatist. Just wishy washy on social issues... cascadiance May 2013 #345

And funding is what puts centrists on the ticket, again and again. winter is coming May 2013 #348

Wow, the RW's are terrified of Hillary. They are already trying to foment dissent against her and Pisces May 2013 #371

"We can do better than Hillary"... Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #374