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seabeyond

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6. FBI just recently changed definition of rape

Reply to Muskypundit (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 4, 2012, 08:56 PM

Feb 2012

To include sodomy. It use to not be in numbers for rape.

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She Dialed 911. The Cop Who Came to Help Raped Her. [View all] oberliner Feb 2012 OP

That young woman overcame a lot. Good for her. yardwork Feb 2012 #1

+100 Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Feb 2012 #2

What was she wearing? redqueen Feb 2012 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Feb 2012 #4

Holy shit Boombaby Feb 2012 #49

Video Boombaby Feb 2012 #119

Whatever she was wearing, the guy was convicted and will go to prison Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #32

omg i guess the posts have been removed? or was there another post on this arely staircase Feb 2012 #19

An alert was sent. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #43

The jury system is a farce. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #86

I'm starting to agree. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #92

You clearly do not understand Vanje Feb 2012 #44

Name them. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #46

It's not mysterious at all. redqueen Feb 2012 #48

Not one single person in this thread has done that. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #51

You don't need proof when you've been victimized by "rape culture" mistertrickster Feb 2012 #54

No, no one has done it in this thread. redqueen Feb 2012 #55

WHAT 'Victim Blaming'? The Doctor. Feb 2012 #56

Redqueen makes her inability to provide proof into an "argument" mistertrickster Feb 2012 #57

She did provide links. Sadly, not a single link backs up what she claims. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #84

rape is in question. she was 31 and been to house before. hm.... it is amazing. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #87

Please check your defensiveness. redqueen Feb 2012 #59

In other words, Doctor, find our proof for us. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #60

Stop kneejerking and read. redqueen Feb 2012 #61

If demanding evidence to draw conclusions is "knee jerking" mistertrickster Feb 2012 #64

Kneejerking is thinking it's all about YOU and MEN. redqueen Feb 2012 #67

The first being post #2. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #65

And there's that lame excuse again. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #63

PM on the way. redqueen Feb 2012 #66

Or, obviously, the woman raped in the OP. polly7 Feb 2012 #70

I would think that basic logic would mean redqueen Feb 2012 #72

No, it doesn't go without question at all. polly7 Feb 2012 #73

Read more carefully. I never said people didn't give a shit *about this woman*. redqueen Feb 2012 #76

one would think, a woman who has experienced this would be curious, why women would be having this seabeyond Feb 2012 #77

Really ??????? polly7 Feb 2012 #81

yes, really. but you are and always have been clear on your position when the issue is women. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #83

lmfao polly7 Feb 2012 #91

+1000 . . . isn't it astonishing mistertrickster Feb 2012 #110

It is astonishing, sickening, and yet still laughable. polly7 Feb 2012 #172

I'm quite aware you'd like to divert attention from the male-bashing. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #79

I believe I have the answer to your question: mistertrickster Feb 2012 #109

I have no problem with skepticism unapatriciated Feb 2012 #154

Misandrists? If I were the admins, I'd put a stop to such horrible mischaracterizations petronius Feb 2012 #95

In your own words, The Doctor. Feb 2012 #108

Why would you need *my* words when *redqueen's* words are right there petronius Feb 2012 #111

It's pointless. redqueen Feb 2012 #112

I've been asking for evidence of this "point", but you've provided nothing. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #116

Yes, exactly right. Clearly, rape victims are mistertrickster Feb 2012 #123

So she didn't say that DUers were 'Blaming the victim'? The Doctor. Feb 2012 #114

She said what I just told you she said, and if you scroll up about 18" you can petronius Feb 2012 #117

So "Yes", she did say that DUers 'blame the victim'. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #122

I have submitted your comments to a jury of smiley-men, and they came back petronius Feb 2012 #125

So you think you can avoid reality simply by ignoring it? The Doctor. Feb 2012 #126

All of that, just to put me on ignore!? DUzy worthy, for sure... petronius Feb 2012 #127

Why is it always so extreme? DefenseLawyer Feb 2012 #80

FBI studies indicate that only 2% of all rape reports are false. yes, we know there are false claims seabeyond Feb 2012 #85

More than 100 rape convictions have been shown wrong by DNA evidence. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #93

FBI studies indicate that only 2% of all rape reports are false. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #94

Could be as high as 15 percent according to the FBI itself . . . mistertrickster Feb 2012 #107

"closed as unfounded" could easily be 2% false and the rest of percentage unfounded, not false seabeyond Feb 2012 #120

are you talking about the Jamaica thing? arely staircase Feb 2012 #89

Yes, there was a misunderstanding. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #98

Well communication is a two way street arely staircase Feb 2012 #99

You just explained why YOU chose to assign intention to the post. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #102

then what DID it mean? what do YOU assume the poster's intentions were? nt arely staircase Feb 2012 #104

That's the great thing about not reading what's not there... The Doctor. Feb 2012 #106

ok, and i'm willing to giv the poster the benefit of the doubt because i don't believe, having read arely staircase Feb 2012 #115

The "all men are potential rapists" cabal have already succeeded mistertrickster Feb 2012 #50

It's disgusting. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #52

Exactly, as if there aren't enough venues for liberals to get bashed mistertrickster Feb 2012 #53

wow I think people let their antagonism toward arely staircase Feb 2012 #90

Nobody has ever said "All men are potential rapists." chrisa Feb 2012 #133

Feminists say it all the time. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #134

no. it is how YOU choose to interpret what is being said seabeyond Feb 2012 #135

So . . . you disagree that all men are potential rapists and mistertrickster Feb 2012 #137

this would be a perfect example of what i was saying.... yet you expect to be taken seriously. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #141

The very words "all men are potential rapists" have been said NUMEROUS times on this board. EOTE Feb 2012 #140

especially if you dont listen to, recognize, hear what they are really saying. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #142

What they're really saying is "All men are potential rapists." EOTE Feb 2012 #144

one time. i will say one time, then i will no longer respond. the rapist is not the monster seabeyond Feb 2012 #145

So you agree with this bullshit and incredibly offensive statement. EOTE Feb 2012 #146

" people aren't so fucking daft as to say shit like that?" i ask the same. i dont have any problem seabeyond Feb 2012 #147

You're also a potential murderer, a potential psychopath. EOTE Feb 2012 #149

having a conversation with you is futile. i put the time posting in this subthread for other posters seabeyond Feb 2012 #152

Hold on a second, my sides hurt from laughing so hard. EOTE Feb 2012 #155

Yeah, sometimes the only logical response to seabeyond mistertrickster Feb 2012 #163

It's rather hard to provide a logical response to such insane rantings. EOTE Feb 2012 #171

Potential is not meaningless. It keeps us alive. chrisa Feb 2012 #158

So first you say that no one here would say that, now you're defending the comment? EOTE Feb 2012 #165

It's not an insult to men - trying to tell you that. chrisa Feb 2012 #167

It IS an insult to men. EOTE Feb 2012 #170

And by the way, I never said anyone said what you are suggesting. EOTE Feb 2012 #148

No, I think you just don't get what the statement means chrisa Feb 2012 #168

Your mind changed really quickly on this matter. EOTE Feb 2012 #169

This message was self-deleted by its author chrisa Feb 2012 #150

I would love to see where RedQueen wrote this. chrisa Feb 2012 #153

Ask her yourself. See what she says. nt mistertrickster Feb 2012 #157

I'm sure she'll respond here, but do you have any evidence of this in the meantime? chrisa Feb 2012 #159

Your guess is wrong. See my previous post. nt mistertrickster Feb 2012 #161

Which one bud? chrisa Feb 2012 #162

Sheesh . . . mistertrickster Feb 2012 #164

Here's the results of a quick bone-dig mistertrickster Feb 2012 #160

Well, you're not paying very close attention then. EOTE Feb 2012 #138

Fair enough. I can't really argue against that. chrisa Feb 2012 #151

in order to really address rape, we have to at the least, be honest seabeyond Feb 2012 #166

To suggest that ALL MEN are potential rapists when a very small number of them are EOTE Feb 2012 #173

BULLSHIT. polly7 Feb 2012 #174

I can understand what you mean - women almost never rape chrisa Feb 2012 #175

Here it is, on DU: The Doctor. Feb 2012 #176

I know what the poster is referring to. Some OP you apparently didn't see... Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #88

Link? I'd like to have a look. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #96

Um...I don't see six posts saying she deserved it before this (number 2) post. McCamy Taylor Feb 2012 #97

Do we have to engage in this kind of vitriol? No one here thinks she deserved it. LetTimmySmoke Feb 2012 #105

And yet a vociferous few love to tell the rest of us mistertrickster Feb 2012 #124

He sodomized THEN raped her? wuh? Muskypundit Feb 2012 #5

FBI just recently changed definition of rape seabeyond Feb 2012 #6

Throw away the key. joshcryer Feb 2012 #7

To Protect and to Serve! sce56 Feb 2012 #8

Agreed. According to the article, the convicted cop had complaints of sexual 1monster Feb 2012 #100

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #9

That cop is the worst kind of scum. Iggo Feb 2012 #18

The biggest problem is that this particular badged piece of shit would be doing the prison raping. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #42

Oh, I don't know. He had to hide behind his badge. renie408 Feb 2012 #47

I agree, rape is horrible. Shouldn't happen to anyone. Not even to those who rape. LiberalLoner Feb 2012 #62

Take a look at this human trash. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #10

you mean by NOT arresting him? he was fired for "loafing" on the job arely staircase Feb 2012 #24

Could have been an issue with the DA. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #36

The only people who did anything was the us attorney and the arely staircase Feb 2012 #68

Can someone explain why the article says he sufrommich Feb 2012 #11

Not until recently obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #12

Wow, how strange.Thanks for the info. nt sufrommich Feb 2012 #15

Sodomy can also be oral sex Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #22

Not if you're a woman. n/t mia Feb 2012 #37

Truly horrible Yo_Mama Feb 2012 #13

Where again did this take place? America you say? Glorious US of A? stuntcat Feb 2012 #14

I hope she sues Politicalboi Feb 2012 #16

Yay Cops! Iggo Feb 2012 #17

These fuckers are above the law they are supposed to enforce! Odin2005 Feb 2012 #20

the fact that he's facing a life sentence Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #26

I think the fact that it's NEWS that he's been convicted is the point. Very unusual. October Feb 2012 #74

What, you mean the one who was convicted and is facing a maximum of life in prison? Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2012 #28

he wasn't charged in several other sexual assaults. provis99 Feb 2012 #30

So when do we start fighting to cut funding for these police gangs? Zalatix Feb 2012 #21

When you want crime rates to go up. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2012 #29

Fat lot of good it did this woman. And wait'll you see this Zalatix Feb 2012 #35

I'm a mathematician. You can probably guess my opinion of the value of anecdotal evidence. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2012 #41

Not really a change of subject. My point is Zalatix Feb 2012 #118

Disgusting pokerfan Feb 2012 #23

What I would think of as "good cops" would have offed this guy a decade ago. saras Feb 2012 #25

The potential of a Life In Prison sentence must get the boys at the FOP riled up. Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #27

How many bad cops are there... T S Justly Feb 2012 #31

Close to 100%... Iggo Feb 2012 #69

any cite? nt blaze Feb 2012 #121

I'm guessing close to 100%. Iggo Feb 2012 #128

WTF!!!!!! Initech Feb 2012 #33

This is the sort of case Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #34

Rooting for rape is wrong. Iggo Feb 2012 #71

agreed. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #78

Shame on you for advocating rape. Please delete this offensive post. Thank you. uppityperson Feb 2012 #103

Chicago has been really bad with systemic police torturing black men mucifer Feb 2012 #38

thanks...I'd forgotten about that case Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #156

Great story - reminds me why I might not give up on being a lawyer jsmirman Feb 2012 #39

Inspiring words oberliner Feb 2012 #40

I will try - the truth is jsmirman Feb 2012 #130

We need good honest people in the Justice system from the judges down 1monster Feb 2012 #101

You are so right jsmirman Feb 2012 #131

Finally an animal with a badge is going to prison. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #45

'(C)ourt...in April, when he faces a maximum of life in prison.' BlueIris Feb 2012 #74

That poor woman. I hope she gets support to see her through this, far beyond the punishment polly7 Feb 2012 #58

Sadly, it's happened before XanaDUer Feb 2012 #82

This story made me sick to my stomach. Beacool Feb 2012 #129

SMH Mr Dixon Feb 2012 #132

No, things are improving. redqueen Feb 2012 #136

Can someone explain the sodomized and then raped comment? trumad Feb 2012 #139

only recently FBI include sodomy as rape seabeyond Feb 2012 #143