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Tommy_Carcetti

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Mon Apr 1, 2013, 09:44 AM Apr 2013

Disturbing new study regarding purebred dogs [View all]

Last edited Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:52 AM - Edit history (1)

I really don't know how to make heads or tails about this.

But if it's true (and the science behind it leads me to believe it is) it explains a lot, at least given my past experience with both purebreds and mixed breeds.

Needless to say, next time I look into getting a dog, it will not be a purebred.

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http://www.thestar.com/life/2013/04/01/purebred_dogs_lack_the_soul_of_mixed_breed_counterparts.html

Study: Purebred dogs lack the “soul” of mixed breed counterparts

University of Waterloo research indicates purebreds severely lacking critical emotional intelligence skills, cites genetic malformations

By: James Iha, News reporter, Published on Mon Apr 1 2013

A controversial new study recently published in The Canadian Veterinary Journal indicates that dogs that are specifically bred to owners for the purposes of representing a particular breed are staggeringly deficient in their ability to emote, express enjoyment in their lives, or otherwise relate to the needs and feelings of their owners or fellow dogs.

The study, conducted by University of Waterloo Assistant Professor of Veterinary Sociology Dr. Danny Myshrall, enlisted the help of 100 owners of recently deceased canines. Half of the participants owned mixed breed dogs of indeterminate type (colloquially known as “mutts”), while the other half were owners of traditional “purebred” dogs. “Amongst the purebreds, we made sure the sample represented a wide swath along the spectrum of breeds,” Myshrall explained. “This included both your traditional dog breeds: Labradors, Poodles, Schipperkes, Komondoors, Redbone Coonhounds, Bouvier des Flandres, and so on. We also included the more recent trend of so-called ‘designer’ breeds: Labrodoodles, Puggles, Bernedoodles, Schnooldles, Yorkie-Poos and Shih-Poos.”

Owners were first asked to give researchers a psychological profile of their pet: how affectionate he or she was towards the owner, what activities (if any) stimulated the dog’s attention, acts of aggression and/or dissatisfaction, eating habits, and other key personality traits of the animal. Then—with the owner’s permission—the scientists physically examined the brains of the late dogs. The results, Myshrall said, were astounding.

“The purebred dog was ten times more likely than a mutt to exhibit signs of chronic ennui, lackadaisical behavior, and an overall expression of a general lack of any sense of greater purpose or meaning in its life,” Myshrall said. “Upon our actual dissection of the dog’s brain itself, we found almost universally that the limbic system (the part of the brain responsible for emotional response and learning) was nearly half the size in purebred dogs when compared to their mixed breed counterparts.”

“In layman’s terms, one could honestly say that purebred dogs simply do not have the same ‘soul’ as one might find in a mixed breed,” Myshrall continued.

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I have never noticed ennui in my wiener dogs. TwilightGardener Apr 2013 #1
I have two mini doxies, ennui is not at all a good description of their attitudes Fumesucker Apr 2013 #4
Yes. My dogs' higher purpose is to seek food, cat vomit, bunny turds... TwilightGardener Apr 2013 #5
My dogs must be from the same litter. Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #10
But not kitty poop? My mutts just love kitty poop! I had to build a big box to keep them out. SharonAnn Apr 2013 #82
Oh, they love kitty poop. Litter boxes are now in the basement, though, and the stairs TwilightGardener Apr 2013 #83
Catbox Crunchies! 4_TN_TITANS Apr 2013 #89
I have 3 mini-doxies RockaFowler Apr 2013 #32
I can't imagine three dachshunds. I feel like I have enough of a circus with two. TwilightGardener Apr 2013 #41
3 mini doxies a kennedy Apr 2013 #53
They are my favorite breed RockaFowler Apr 2013 #63
I have one that's all about eating, sleeping and being in daddy's lap every possible moment Fumesucker Apr 2013 #62
mini doxies.... a kennedy Apr 2013 #52
Might want to keep an eye on it then. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #13
Might even be a little..evil. Yes, will have to watch them closely. TwilightGardener Apr 2013 #17
Wiener dogs..... a kennedy Apr 2013 #51
Offer them a copy of some Baudelaire poetry and see what happens. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #87
April Fool! Scuba Apr 2013 #2
Yep! Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #9
Gotta be. mainer Apr 2013 #37
Well, I can tell you my Pit Bull has no rhythm & can't carry a tune. baldguy Apr 2013 #3
Clearly a dog without a soul. nt Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #6
Nonsense! OriginalGeek Apr 2013 #88
My cocker spaniel's got soul he can't control Kingofalldems Apr 2013 #7
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #8
Sheesh. Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #11
Typical response from a purebred owner. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #12
I own purebreds, but I still have a sense of humor. Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #26
Dogs without feelings are no laughing matter, Sir. nt Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #27
... Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #28
lol octothorpe Apr 2013 #69
Please notice the story doesn't say ALL purebred dogs... Silent3 Apr 2013 #14
True, but there is now scientific proof that purebreds are predisposed to this problem. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #15
Just so you know, I wasn't responding to you in particular... Silent3 Apr 2013 #19
Glad you understand the problem. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #20
BALL BALL BALL get the red out Apr 2013 #16
Mixed breeds know their priorities. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #18
Our GSD is more "Ball, Food, Bullystick" woodsprite Apr 2013 #43
I don't know about the study, but my purebred beagle has plenty of "soul". n/t hughee99 Apr 2013 #21
You doubt Canadian science? Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #22
Well, my dog isn't Canadian, maybe that's the issue. n/t hughee99 Apr 2013 #64
what a bunch of horseshit baloney. pnwest Apr 2013 #23
I just have to be honest.... Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #25
April Fools Yourself. IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #47
My bullmastiffs have been incredibly empathetic and are able to communicate their feelings byeya Apr 2013 #24
Perhaps your dogs aren't as pure as you think. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #29
Got all the AKC papers and the breeder, who only handles 4 litters per year, is well regarded in dog byeya Apr 2013 #72
OK, you got me. That was naughty - funny - but naughty! LOL byeya Apr 2013 #74
Much obliged. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #75
With me you can - I have a poor memory. byeya Apr 2013 #91
I wonder how they controlled for Lack of Socialization with Puppy Mills? IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #30
Well, according to the study, it's internal. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #31
I know that if you don't socialize a puppy at week five, they have all kinds of issues. IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #36
I should have refreshed the thread before writing my post! csziggy Apr 2013 #49
Stupid April Fool's Joke. Grrr. IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #54
If my dog was any more attached to me she'd be a tumor. bunnies Apr 2013 #33
Hey, take it up with the University of Waterloo. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #35
ewwww. lol.. elehhhhna Apr 2013 #85
I wonder how many of the purebred dogs were from puppy farms csziggy Apr 2013 #34
I said the same thing. Anybody familiar with rescue IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #38
You could be looking at a combination of both. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #39
I'm pretty sure this is an April Fool's Day gag, folks. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2013 #40
Haha! It was awfully odd. tblue Apr 2013 #80
Oh, FFS - April Freaking Fools! IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #42
* Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #45
We did rescue - 87 puppies went through my house before my children were born. IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #50
Sigh UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #44
Link does not work for me Gothmog Apr 2013 #46
My purebred Papillon has more "soul" than most humans. Autumn Apr 2013 #48
I love dogs, but "sense of greater purpose" should not be used in the same sentence. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #55
Defects are magnified with continued pure breeding. tabasco Apr 2013 #56
Horse Feathers! Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #57
more goddam mixed-breed snobbery, dammit! KG Apr 2013 #58
AWWW You should meet my Fang... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2013 #103
Good grief, I'm a dog lover and I thought this was hilarious mainer Apr 2013 #59
You mean Assistant Professor of Veterinary Sociology Dr. Danny Myshrall didn't throw you off? Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #60
Kinda like the rich interbreeding with the rich to keep it rich ...with the same results. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #61
Our Golden Retreivers Muffy & Biff have been on Prozac for 7 months now ...... olddots Apr 2013 #65
That explains what is wrong with my collie. I got him from a shelter and the only emotion he appleannie1 Apr 2013 #66
Sig lines, sig lines, sig lines. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #67
The more dogs mixed into one, the better the dog. MineralMan Apr 2013 #68
There is no such field as veterinary "sociology", LOL. Happy April Fool's Day to you! kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #70
But there will be! If there's money and tenure in it, and dupes the gullible like me, then we shall byeya Apr 2013 #73
Oh fucking bullshit. talkingmime Apr 2013 #71
Horse feathers! My Toy Poodle is smart, affectionate, energetic,etc. I have owned a mutt, and patricia92243 Apr 2013 #76
Sounds like purebreeds are being bred to be more catlike. Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #77
weil done T-Boy AngryAmish Apr 2013 #78
Not true with the ones I've had; perhaps not all are the same in this regard but DeschutesRiver Apr 2013 #79
My dog says they're obviously cat people Progressive dog Apr 2013 #81
Our family dogs are a mutt and a yellow Lab. Cleita Apr 2013 #84
mutts are healthier BainsBane Apr 2013 #86
Awww! Such a cute baby! smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #94
Thanks! BainsBane Apr 2013 #97
All of my Golden Retrievers were happy, healthy dogs! In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #90
Smells like bullshit. GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #92
The research is caca LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #93
But the "designer" mixed-breeds are, by definition, not purebreds. pnwmom Apr 2013 #95
April Fool's or plain baloney. They measured canine "ennui?" DirkGently Apr 2013 #96
Well, it's comforting to know that if the Republican party does disappear, winter is coming Apr 2013 #98
"Where is Busy Bee? You forgot Busy Bee!" izzybeans Apr 2013 #99
Good one! RiffRandell Apr 2013 #104
Sorry no dice if these results could be reproduced and proven outside this study I may give it Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #100
Not in MY experience. elleng Apr 2013 #101
Link doesn't work, and I suspect an April fools joke. drm604 Apr 2013 #102
Danny Myshrall? Dr. Strange Apr 2013 #105
Yup, THAT Dr. Danny Myshrall Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #106
What hogwash. beevul Apr 2013 #107
It was indeed hogwash. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #108
Hook line and sinker lol. beevul Apr 2013 #109
I'm sure they are adorable. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #110
Life would not be the same without them. beevul Apr 2013 #111
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