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In reply to the discussion: Why the "My bad sex wasn't rape" editorial is so utterly, utterly vile. [View all]riqster
(13,986 posts)252. If you are going to say "even more often", you should have proper citations to prove it
Otherwise, you are ruining an otherwise fact-based OP.
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Why the "My bad sex wasn't rape" editorial is so utterly, utterly vile. [View all]
redqueen
Mar 2013
OP
what bothers me most about that article is the implication of the title
La Lioness Priyanka
Mar 2013
#1
She is being a good little girl just like her father taught her to be. You know, always protect the
LiberalLoner
Mar 2013
#17
ugh. sorry to hear that. i do agree with you that it's a good girl syndrome
La Lioness Priyanka
Mar 2013
#21
Lol well he is a homeless alcoholic at this point so, fail in general too....
LiberalLoner
Mar 2013
#133
She's only been published widely 3x: writing about her "boobs" , Dad as a lover
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#109
we watch a lot of people validate the rape culture and sexism for their own personal reasons. nt
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#213
Not to mention she describes her experiences with her father raping her as a 4 year old as
LiberalLoner
Mar 2013
#2
Thank you so much. Oh I hope it helps. Been feeling like we are losing the fight lately. Think
LiberalLoner
Mar 2013
#298
thank you jury 6. this is jsut another way for men to work at derailing these conversations.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#29
What the hell is your problem? Normally I'm not one to jump on people but WTF?
nomorenomore08
Mar 2013
#193
Apparently the OP was, earlier in life. And is now trying to deal with that.
nomorenomore08
Mar 2013
#199
You do know this 'won't someone shut those wimminz up!' shit has been addressed in ATA.
redqueen
Mar 2013
#225
i think durham said it exactly right. reading you absurdity on how du should run, by such a newbie
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#289
no. they are picking apart her offensively hurtful and problematic article justifying, excusing rape
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#290
no. you did personally insult. and you try to take it further. but, lack ownership.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#376
you cannot actually argue what is being said on here so your defense of the author fails
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#412
...what happened in Steubenville, with Natalia on “Girls,” and with me... all rape is ridiculous.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#9
yes. and the hyperbole from duers accusing others of outrage with all the trash
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#31
yes. i get it. SOME men get off on the pain that it causes. it is after all how they define their
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#49
thats not bullshit, but Im wondering how You know what every porn watcher thinks.
Whisp
Mar 2013
#351
trying to conflate adult porn with underage shit is like trying to conflate adult sex w/child abuse
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2013
#352
I didn't assume you agreed with it... but I do disagree with you about women's (or girls')
redqueen
Mar 2013
#13
Perhaps the author was writing about herself, rather than to your specifications
cthulu2016
Mar 2013
#11
Yep. These kinds of attacks do damage to those of us that care about rape as an issue.
Generation_Why
Mar 2013
#35
another derail. tell women how if they speak out, you, a man, will no longer be able to support her
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#52
this is just another of the insults on du. being told that we are to continually address and educate
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#32
Which is just another example of why rape culture and the patriarchy are so successful...
redqueen
Mar 2013
#92
Some people choose to express themselves in a way that's not suitable to other's agendas...
Generation_Why
Mar 2013
#18
the point you and others miss. she is directing it to society, to women, to girls and to rapists...
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#23
about the same amount of courage that clarence thomas has on issues
La Lioness Priyanka
Mar 2013
#45
Just curious. In the 60s and 70s, "free love" was the ideal. How many people here
McCamy Taylor
Mar 2013
#30
Agreeing to sex that wasn't all that fun is not rape. Wanna know what rape is?
LiberalLoner
Mar 2013
#41
not to mention 60s ad 70s did not even have a word for date rape. was just the way it was.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#97
I don't see it that quite that way. Nothing is free, and that 'free love' had a price to pay
Whisp
Mar 2013
#168
it really is not even about her. it is about those on du that refuse to think maybe there may be an
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#56
If some guy had written this stuff, I would be disgusted, would utterly condemn him,
Nye Bevan
Mar 2013
#106
Isn't that what everyone in this thread is doing? And if they aren't doing that, then why is it
patrice
Mar 2013
#283
k and r--thank you, redqueen I did not have the strength to get through that mess.
niyad
Mar 2013
#43
Thanks redqueen. I finished the other thread, got called away before I could respond
riderinthestorm
Mar 2013
#47
It is far, far worse. Because in rape culture, their voices are amplified exponentially.
redqueen
Mar 2013
#74
Yes, it's easy to see that she might have been just writing shit to get clicks.
redqueen
Mar 2013
#82
K&R Thank you for taking the time to do this very unpleasant task. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Mar 2013
#78
sexual awesomeness and wallet. see, not hard. and rather useless. not to mention the damage it
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#139
reading comprehension is your friend. to go to all that bother and frame your issue so poorly
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#142
its not her personal story when she extrapolates from herself to others
La Lioness Priyanka
Mar 2013
#145
more insults? not an ability to actually address what you disagree with. just lazy insults?
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#291
lol. now i am a stalker. you good. i do not think there is a post, without personal attack. nt
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#379
Wow. Really? That guy didn't even understand the OP, and said "shame on you"...
redqueen
Mar 2013
#333
Agreed. And who are the fuckers at Salon that thought it was a good idea to post this on their site
Evoman
Mar 2013
#151
i believe there is research that states it is a real issue, a community outcry there is an issue.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#181
that would have been the point in the article and how important it was to police the community and
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#187
If you are going to say "even more often", you should have proper citations to prove it
riqster
Mar 2013
#252
Sexual counseling from someone whose lost her virginity at age 4 via her own father
rocktivity
Mar 2013
#176
Yeah, it's the idea that what the other person (usually female) wants doesn't matter.
nomorenomore08
Mar 2013
#202
"No one is out there telling women that they have to feel that they were raped" is a horrible line.
Igel
Mar 2013
#241
Thank you. That stuff doesn't hurt me anymore. Hearing people support rape or
LiberalLoner
Mar 2013
#404
well, redq. i saw a thread that cheered the article. and i see a thread that challenges it.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#318
Or they tell us to take the discussion to some man-free zone and be good little
LiberalLoner
Mar 2013
#322
ah, i was told just this morning, again, it is my "tone". lol. 'pose to be nicer. nt
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#325
Yeah... what I don't get is how posts calling out rapists, or rape culture, or sexual harassment
redqueen
Mar 2013
#340
Maybe there is a reason for that...was just watching a crime show and heard
LiberalLoner
Mar 2013
#343
That's what I'm trying to figure out. That's why I wondered if they might
LiberalLoner
Mar 2013
#411
I'm not sure her father raping her at four could be called "a sexually bad experience."
LiberalLoner
Mar 2013
#278
Was that in the article? I don't suppose it matters that it wasn't if it's true, so I'll edit the
patrice
Mar 2013
#281
Oh, no, it was another article she wrote, one of three she has had published.
LiberalLoner
Mar 2013
#282
Thank you for the information. No doubt about it, childhood experiences, especially of
patrice
Mar 2013
#284
Thank you. I've been there and find it triggering. I'm also a bit suspicious
LiberalLoner
Mar 2013
#321
at a time when so many are questioning whether raping a gilr that is unconscious is really rape, you
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#293
Would you ever dare to say that people who claim to be mugged ought not to be taken at their word
redqueen
Mar 2013
#337
It's so hurtful. I can't fathom the jollies that some of these folks get out
myrna minx
Mar 2013
#398
I had the same revulsion for what I call the good girl role, making sure not to
LiberalLoner
Mar 2013
#381