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In reply to the discussion: The marginalization of "The Left" through the years. Not hearing us now at all. [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)156. You know
"Just because most here are onto your shtick, you shouldn't get all huffy. It gets old. Especially when you play your games with those who obviously know more and have an actual point to make. "
...I think comments like that are clownish. I mean, do you want a cookie for self-declaring that you speak for "most here"?
I really don't give a shit about your characterizations, but obviously you think that I should.
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The marginalization of "The Left" through the years. Not hearing us now at all. [View all]
madfloridian
Mar 2013
OP
Let's get one thing straight from the get-go: What the MSM calls "The Left" is the middle.
NYC_SKP
Mar 2013
#1
what they call the 'far left' is the middle. what they call the left is the center-
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#7
+1 It is the American People, the 99 percent, who have been sold out.
woo me with science
Mar 2013
#77
In 2004 they delivered a slap in the face to huge numbers of caring people.
madfloridian
Mar 2013
#65
As Molly Ivins said he was a "fighting centrist". Not one who shut out a whole part of the party.
madfloridian
Mar 2013
#70
"stop assigning them more power than they have" I'd like to suggest part of how that mistake is
patrice
Mar 2013
#182
During the buildup to the IWar, the centrist couldnt wait to kiss Bush's behind.
rhett o rick
Mar 2013
#209
I think the oligarch overlords have politics right where they want it. We have a wacko right wing
rhett o rick
Mar 2013
#221
"If liberal Democrats stood up and fought hard, the Party could be made to move left. Playing the
rhett o rick
Mar 2013
#103
simply, you've been anti Dem since Dean flamed out (though it wasn't his fault, it was the media).
dionysus
Mar 2013
#128
Truth about the shellackings of leftish Presidential candidates........
socialist_n_TN
Mar 2013
#163
You are correct: The Powell Manifesto set out the entire plan. Nixon's appointee to
loudsue
Mar 2013
#83
Don't forget the "think tanks" and the Federalist Society. They've gone about a very successful
SleeplessinSoCal
Mar 2013
#22
I've got a wee bit of hope owing to the very dedicated base of Occupy Wall Street
SleeplessinSoCal
Mar 2013
#18
only a couple weeks ago I heard one of the Sunday morning infotainment
Douglas Carpenter
Mar 2013
#20
I like your screen name. I may have to change mine to include socialist.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#93
The Leninist model is the only one that has been proven to actually.....
socialist_n_TN
Mar 2013
#159
yes the Leninist model is the only model that has actually taken capitalism down and was able to
Douglas Carpenter
Mar 2013
#172
I think the true American Left was tied to Unions and economic issues, now they mostly represent
whathehell
Mar 2013
#23
I don't recall anyone promoting that dichotomy, and it's definitely a wrongheaded idea,
whathehell
Mar 2013
#41
Guess what? Those like Elizabeth Warren, who voted for Ronald Reagan & 41 killed the unions
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#30
Guess what?...I was a living, breathing, thinking adult during that time and no one I knew
whathehell
Mar 2013
#40
Yes, and as I understand it, she was quite liberal in college but that's changed.
whathehell
Mar 2013
#49
Any discussion of the 1980 election that does not include the words "hostage crisis" and...
JHB
Mar 2013
#51
Yes...In fact it was not long ago at all that BOTH parties called Social Security "The 3rd Rail"...
whathehell
Mar 2013
#215
Yes, I think you're right. I'm a member of Progressive Democrats of America
whathehell
Mar 2013
#219
If it is liberal democrats' fault for social justice issues losses, who's fault is it that we have
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#33
you better believe actions have consequences and just as you blame me for social issue losses I
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#35
JFK so truely said "Ask NOT what your country can do for you, ask what YOU can do"
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#39
Liberals could make that demand of centrists if Liberals/the Left could SUCCEED. They don't succeed
patrice
Mar 2013
#198
I remember too. & If HHH had won, Nixon wouldn't have split Labor & choked all of the poorer unions
patrice
Mar 2013
#199
A lot of us in my generation remember how the unions were largely pro-Vietnam war
Fumesucker
Mar 2013
#32
Considering my age and where I live the likelihood of me ever being in a union is nil
Fumesucker
Mar 2013
#95
I think he said pretty clearly that the unions were for the Vietnam war....
socialist_n_TN
Mar 2013
#72
The Democratic party will continue to swing to the right as long as the left lets them,
MadHound
Mar 2013
#44
They are the victim. The people quoted in the OP made them victims. Deliberately.
madfloridian
Mar 2013
#59
+1 THAT's what keeps what calls itself "the Left" marginalized & hence from becoming what would
patrice
Mar 2013
#203
When the left fights back by not voting for the centrists the centrists claim 'victimhood".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#119
K&R The Democratic party now seems like just a branch of the Republican party.
forestpath
Mar 2013
#48
oh, wow. I have heard of the progressive caucus but had no idea there were 70.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#88
They have been trying to communicate about their budget proposal. Petition link in my post #205
patrice
Mar 2013
#206
Yet, the 3rd Way/DLC types still expect us to vote for their candidates and blame us when they lose.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#75
The democratic party has left the poor people behind and they embrace corporate
southernyankeebelle
Mar 2013
#85
Reed: "Our next challenge is to deliver on that promise (to the middle class)"
progressoid
Mar 2013
#99
Alex Cary documented the 'leveraged buy-out' of Mass Media in his History of Propaganda...
Octafish
Mar 2013
#102
Maria Gilardin is TOPS and TUC Radio is an amazing resource, an antidote to MSM...
Octafish
Mar 2013
#180
I loved Kucinich. Everyone laughed at him but he was one of the only ones with the courage
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#108
Democrats know that they do not have to earn our vote...that it's already locked in
davidn3600
Mar 2013
#124
Pres.Obama is the #1 greatest president since LBJ.MOST democratic voters LOVE HIM
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#151
"Hey, Hey, LBJ! How many kids did you kill today?" Weren't words of love for a "great" president.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#166
Eisenhower started the war. Soundbytes sound nice, but are very misguided, dontchathink?
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#167
And, your "liberal" hero escalated it to the point of killing millions and refused to end it.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#170
What a whitewashing of history. LBJ was far to the left of McCarthy & McGovern put together.
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#175
Oh, right. LBJ was a real peacenik. "Losing was not an option." But, he did lose.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#185
1968 showed what happened (prior to 2000) when some 3rd party ruined things.
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#207
Very well done, thank you for posting on this issue, you missed very little, the Koch connection
Dragonfli
Mar 2013
#137
What is described here is just the latest installment of purging the left from US politics.
limpyhobbler
Mar 2013
#142
I believe the military has been running the country since Truman stood up to
mountain grammy
Mar 2013
#179
AGREE! That was demonstrated also because Henry Wallace lost the nomination to Truman.
patrice
Mar 2013
#183
Not that Al From cares, but liberals hold him in even more contempt than he holds us
Samantha
Mar 2013
#191
The marginalization of the left is made easy by rigid, zealous ideologues...
Generation_Why
Mar 2013
#204