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Octafish

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39. It absolutely does. The real bosses stay in power, no matter who sits in the Oval Office.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:36 PM
Mar 2013

I understand your point that Bush 'tossed CIA under the bus.' My point is CIA's real bosses LOVE Bush and use their influence in media to get the rest of the country to go along with the program, whether it's war abroad or austerity at home.



From p. 100 of Joseph Trento's "Prelude to Terror: The Rogue CIA, The Legacy of America's Private Intelligence Network and the Compromising of American Intelligence"

...During George Bush’s Zapata-Offshore years, he had met most of the Gulf region’s royals and had developed close personal relationships with several of them. When Saudi money began flowing into Texas in the 1970’s, Bush and his family became very friendly with the most influential Saudis living in the United States.

The most important friendship Bush had was with a quiet, dignified man named Sheikh Kamal Adham, Director of Saudi Intelligence, whom Bush had met through his father. Bush has told reporters, ‘I never met Kamal Adham personally.’ But according to lawyers for the late Saudi intelligence head and several officials at the CIA who served under Bush, there were several official meetings inside and outside the United States, both before and after Bush was the DCI. ‘Bush and Kamal were old friends. I was present when they met in New York when Bush was still United Nations Ambassador,’ Sarkis Soghanalian said. Bush and Adham shared a fascination with intelligence. Bush also took a deep interest in the sheikh’s American-educated nephew, HRH Prince Turki bin Faisal Al Sa’ud.

Prince Tuki had been a subject of CIA interest ever since his father had sent him to prep school at the Lawrenceville School in New Jersey. Agency talent spotters on the faculty at Georgetown University kept close track of Turki until he dropped out of Georgetown University to return home at the outbreak of the 1967 war with Israel. After later completing his education in England, Turki again returned home to prepare himself to eventually succeed his uncle-Kamal Adham as Director of Saudi intelligence.

SNIP...

Both Prince Turki and Sheikh Kamal Adham would play enormous roles in servicing a spy network designed to replace the official CIA while it was under Congressional scrutiny between the time of Watergate and the end of the Carter administration. The idea of using the Saudi royal family to bypass the American Constitution did not originate in the Kingdom. Adham was initially approached by one of the most respected and powerful men in Washington, Clark Clifford, who rose to power under Harry Truman and had enjoyed a relationship with the intelligence community for years. ‘Clark Clifford approached Kamal Adham and asked that the Saudis consider setting up an informal intelligence network outside the United States during the investigations,’ Robert Crowley said. Crowley, in his role as the CIA’s liaison to the corporate world, was privy to the plan, in which worldwide covert operations for the Agency were funded through a host of Saudi banking and charity enterprises. Several top U.S. military and intelligence officials directed the operations from positions they held overseas, notably former CIA director Richard Helms, at this time Ambassador to Iran.



From the 1980 election:



Agents for Bush

The 1980 Campaign

by Bob Callahan
Covert Action Information Bulletin

George Bush owed his recent political fortune to several old CIA friends, chiefly Ray Cline, who had helped to rally the intelligence community … and started … "Agents for Bush."

Bill Peterson of the Washington Post wrote in a March 1, 1980 article, "Simply put, no presidential campaign in recent memory – perhaps ever – has attracted as much support from the intelligence community as (has) the campaign of former CIA director George Bush."

George Bush’s CIA campaign staff included Cline, CIA Chief of Station in Taiwan from 1958 to 1962; Lt. Gen. Salm V. Wilson and Lt. Gen. Harold A. Aaron, both former Directors of the Defense Intelligence Agency. Also included were retired Gen. Richard Stillwell, once the CIA’s Chief of Covert Operations for the Far East, and at least 25 other retired Company directors, deputy directors and, or, agents.

… Angelo Codevilla, informed a congressional committee that was "aware that active duty agents of the CIA worked for the George Bush primary election campaign.

… Ray Cline claimed that he had been promoting the pro-CIA agenda that Bush had embraced for years, and that he had found the post Church-hearings criticism had died down some time ago. "I found there was a tremendous constituency for the CIA when everyone in Washington was still urinating all over it," Cline said. … "It’s panned out almost too good to be true. The country is waking up just in time for George’s candidacy. …

In July 1979 George Bush and Ray Cline attended a conference in Jerusalem. … (with) leaders of Israel, Great Britain and the United States. … The Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism was hosted by the Israeli government and … most of Israel’s top intelligence officers … were in attendance. …

… The Israelis were angry with Carter because his administration had recently released its annual report on human rights wherein the Israeli government was taken to task for abusing the rights of the Palestinian people on the West Bank and Gaza Strip. …

The Republican delegation was led by George Bush. It included Ray Cline and Major Gen. George Keegan (former USAF intelligence chief) and Harvard professor Richard Pipes.

Looking for a mobilizing issue to counter the Carter-era themes of détente and human rights, the Bush people began to explore the political benefits of embracing the terrorism/anti-terrorism theme.

… Ray Cline developed the theme that terror was not a random response. … but rather an instrument of East bloc policy adopted after 1969 when the KGB persuaded the Politburo of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union to accept the PLO as a major political instrument in the Mideast and to subsidize its terrorist policies by freely giving money, training, arms and coordinated communications. …

… Within days after the conference the new propaganda war began in earnest. On July 11, 1979, the International Herald Tribune featured a lead editorial entitled "The Issue is Terrorism," which quoted directly from conference speeches. …

SOURCE: Covert Action Information Bulletin No.33(Winter 1990) "The Bush Issue"

ONLINE(scroll down for excerpts):

http://mediamayhem.blogspot.com/2004_04_11_archive.html



Secret Government is un-American. And un-Democratic.
Duh!!! malaise Mar 2013 #1
TIME's CIA guy is helping rewrite the history of the Iraq thing. Octafish Mar 2013 #15
oh my god NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #19
Here zappaman Mar 2013 #20
thanks NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #77
He wouldn't be CIA if he is trying to defend Bush. Bush threw the CIA under the bus for his acts. stevenleser Mar 2013 #22
He ''covers'' CIA for TIME. As for what TIME Inc and the Media do on behalf of CIA... Octafish Mar 2013 #35
None of that means anything in this context. The CIA probably hates Bush. They would not cover for stevenleser Mar 2013 #37
It absolutely does. The real bosses stay in power, no matter who sits in the Oval Office. Octafish Mar 2013 #39
I disagree. I've never seen evidence of any such influence. stevenleser Mar 2013 #40
Here ya go... Octafish Mar 2013 #42
That's pretty milquetoast. I thought you said the CIA was pro-Bush and pro-Republican. stevenleser Mar 2013 #44
You stated you never see CIA influence in the media. I showed it to you. Octafish Mar 2013 #49
It's milquetoast because it doesnt rise to the level of what I thought you were suggesting stevenleser Mar 2013 #50
The CIA had actual 'reporters' planted in the media. Were you around during the Bush years btw? sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #56
In what way did he throw them under the bus? He awarded Tenet the medal of freedom. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #54
Bush 'cleansed' the CIA and remolded it to his liking. He made sure to replace any dissenters sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #53
I think he got some help from Cheney, but I guess that goes without saying. rhett o rick Mar 2013 #55
Lol, well as we all know, Cheney was the real president. Bush probably just did as he was told. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #57
I know this may sound weird but I feel a little sorry for him. rhett o rick Mar 2013 #68
Wait, wait! Saddam offered to leave for $1 billion? And we spent TRILLIONS on war to oust him? tclambert Mar 2013 #46
Yes, the WMD propaganda conspiracy to commit war was treason and, just1voice Mar 2013 #2
yep-- such a tragedy NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #21
Yes, but moving forward... zeemike Mar 2013 #26
Here's an historic photo of a Japanese officer who oversaw water-boarding Allied POWs... Octafish Mar 2013 #51
Off to Greatest! nt raccoon Mar 2013 #3
Defector admits to WMD lies that triggered Iraq war Octafish Mar 2013 #52
So I ask... RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #4
I'd much rather see them incarcerated at Gitmo for the rest of their miserable lives. nt. OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #8
It must be, as said with so many other issues, "It's all the fault of the Republicans." AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #62
Yes indeed, and more than that librechik Mar 2013 #5
Remember Mark Lombardi, librechik? The artist connected bin Laden And Bush with his Art. Octafish Mar 2013 #58
I do remember him and think of him frequently librechik Mar 2013 #78
This is ProSense Mar 2013 #6
And what do they tell us ordinary folks with no "on tap" high powered attorneys? Ignorance shraby Mar 2013 #32
We are murderers. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #7
I'd agree if we were still a Democracy, my Friend. Octafish Mar 2013 #9
+1, it's not like billions worldwide and clearly here in many cities didn't protest this action. Lionessa Mar 2013 #10
that's definitely part of the whole problem NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #23
Exactly. zeemike Mar 2013 #28
They were found guilty by a war crimes tribunal bananas Mar 2013 #11
Found guilty in an earlier International (War Crimes) Tribunal too: chknltl Mar 2013 #60
The statement that we are a nation dedicated to the rule of law is incorrect mindwalker_i Mar 2013 #12
....... trusty elf Mar 2013 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author damnedifIknow Mar 2013 #14
I am in complete agreement with the point of view expressed in the JDPriestly Mar 2013 #16
recommend times one trillion NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #17
Just think how much Oil the US could have bought with 6 Trillion. formercia Mar 2013 #36
Yes, imagine the good work that could... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2013 #71
Yes. aquart Mar 2013 #18
K&R SunSeeker Mar 2013 #24
Mass murderers and pretty proud of it... Tikki Mar 2013 #25
don't get all conspiratorial on us, Octafish, you know how That flies here... Whisp Mar 2013 #27
What sets them off like nothing else is mentioning the BFEE tie to Dallas. Octafish Mar 2013 #65
These ticky fine points of law and humanity matter nary a whit to post-WWII America indepat Mar 2013 #29
K&R! G_j Mar 2013 #30
The worst kept secret in the world is how profitable war is for an economy Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #31
Never profitable for an economy involved in war. Only good for profiteers on point Mar 2013 #34
Under international law it is a war crime 'act of aggression' on point Mar 2013 #33
It's a good thing we ratified joining the ICC and the killers can be brought to trial...oh, wait. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #38
That video makes me nauseous. DollarBillHines Mar 2013 #41
He laughs when he says 'money trumps peace.' Octafish Mar 2013 #66
"Ooops no WMDs under this desk (hahahaha)." Rex Mar 2013 #43
That made me furious. Octafish Mar 2013 #59
All of America should be really pissed off over the war but, Hotler Mar 2013 #45
So can I go to the police station and file charges against him? tclambert Mar 2013 #47
And George Bush gets to spend his retirement painting puppies. Initech Mar 2013 #48
That's funny, I didn't know that he graduated from coloring books! n/t RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #74
Wow, I am astonished, thanks for informing me. xtraxritical Mar 2013 #61
K&R AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #63
k & r to that! thank you. eom wildbilln864 Mar 2013 #64
K&R Solly Mack Mar 2013 #67
K&R. (nt) Kurovski Mar 2013 #69
Octafish, watch this video by Arundhati Roy this week when you have time. madfloridian Mar 2013 #70
Forward! blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #72
How long must justice wait? Coyotl Mar 2013 #73
Kick nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #75
Now we are paying the price dem in texas Mar 2013 #76
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