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murielm99

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131. Of course there is room.

Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:38 AM

Mar 2013

DU has certain things they get rabid about. Christianity and Catholicism are just a couple of them.

If you were to say anything remotely anti-Islam, there would be a great outcry about your prejudice.

This place is not an indication of the rest of the Democratic party, or the rest of society.

Trying to defend Christianity or Catholicism on DU is a lost cause. You will be attacked by a bunch of people who pile on like fourth graders.

Are you an atheist? Okay. Live and let live.

I you are disturbed by the nasty children, make liberal use of the features that help you hide threads and ignore annoying DU members.

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Is there still room for Catholics among rank-and-file Dems? [View all] reformist2 Mar 2013 OP

Oh, stop. This is about the constant assault by the Catholic hierarchy on children, women, and ... GodlessBiker Mar 2013 #1

There are many here who see the laity as enablers BeyondGeography Mar 2013 #11

I can personally attest to seeing posts that disagree with you. redqueen Mar 2013 #12

There have been several OP's today that specifically called out members, not just the hierarchy. pnwmom Mar 2013 #86

No that's simply factually incorrect - DU is brimming with attacks on the catholic laity. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2013 #157

Ya know, it's strange, but I've yet to see any of the laity here express any overt dismay over the Zorra Mar 2013 #166

this website is very anti-religion but liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #2

a.k.a. "spiritual" Democrats, Free Democrats, Progressive in the artistic-sense Democrats, like what patrice Mar 2013 #10

and there are christians, like me arely staircase Mar 2013 #94

I came of age during Vatican II: Christian FIRST, Catholic second, although that's really more like patrice Mar 2013 #99

Is that the same christ who wiped out almost all of mankind? snooper2 Mar 2013 #128

no arely staircase Mar 2013 #142

Huh? you got me confused... snooper2 Mar 2013 #143

jesus and the flood, huh? arely staircase Mar 2013 #144

Anti-christianity more than anti-religion, I think. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2013 #158

isn't the Vice President a Catholic ? JI7 Mar 2013 #3

Yep Go Vols Mar 2013 #7

Catholics also make up the largest number of Dem Senators JI7 Mar 2013 #14

Yes, Biden and Kerry and Ted Kennedy among other Democrats, are/were Catholics. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #137

You favor a purge? or oppose alienation? either way it's a fascistic impulse in service to patrice Mar 2013 #4

It's confusing too Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #26

+1 HuckleB Mar 2013 #88

Thanks, you always give me a lot to think about. freshwest Mar 2013 #168

I'm not a Catholic but I seriously get pissed off at the inconsiderate bigotry I sometimes see here. Matariki Mar 2013 #5

I think you forgot your sarcasm thingy MindPilot Mar 2013 #29

Where? kwassa Mar 2013 #54

Of course there are no links. cordelia Mar 2013 #127

I think it's equally inconsiderate to mock atheists beliefs. Matariki Mar 2013 #65

why? So now we shouldnt be rude? Religion is the worst thing man ever invented. bowens43 Mar 2013 #126

Why be rude at all? Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #132

Religion is not the worst thing man ever invented. Matariki Mar 2013 #147

Oh for Gosh sake. Believers sit here DAILY and hear the snark from atheists, and you for CAG Mar 2013 #103

Mocking beliefs is really that harmful? alp227 Mar 2013 #75

Criticism of bigotry is not bigotry. HuckleB Mar 2013 #89

Thank you. + 100,000,000. nt Zorra Mar 2013 #145

I don't disagree with youi. Matariki Mar 2013 #146

I don't think people are angry at catholics Marrah_G Mar 2013 #6

+1000 (nt) Control-Z Mar 2013 #9

+1001 forestpath Mar 2013 #58

I'm suggesting that it might be prudent to tone it down a few notches, that's all. reformist2 Mar 2013 #13

The level of anomosity towards women and gays by the Church is pretty severe. Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #21

So you are not a Catholic am I correct? Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #133

For me, that is not going to happen Marrah_G Mar 2013 #23

The Church Dorian Gray Mar 2013 #120

The animosity toward church hierarchy is well deserved Warpy Mar 2013 #41

No. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #70

"Local churches and the priests and people who do wonderful things are FAR removed..." redqueen Mar 2013 #19

I hate to say it but you see a lot of catholic hate. People just can't help themselves. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #56

What we hate is a Church that insists on crushing the lives of women and gays and poor people Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #136

It doesn't matter what you think. We who still like what our church stands for don't like southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #139

Well, this is a liberal discussion board. Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #140

True but I always thought liberals were more tolerant then the right wing. The southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #141

This is what I don't get: Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #152

Well I don't like the level of hate, period. There are many many good local priests that southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #153

So do you think we should express this animosity towards prominent Catholic sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #156

I'm expressing animosity towards the church leadership and its policies. Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #161

Respect people--not hurtful or silly beliefs. earthside Mar 2013 #34

There were hate posts today specifically directed at members, not just the hierarchy, pnwmom Mar 2013 #91

That's very sad Dorian Gray Mar 2013 #121

As a practicing Catholic Dorian Gray Mar 2013 #119

What so say is factually incorrect - a brief scan of DU will find many posts that are clearly angry Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2013 #159

So basically it's OK to bash every institution in the world except overtly liberal ones? reformist2 Mar 2013 #8

if they are anti gay, anti women etc yes they should be criticized JI7 Mar 2013 #15

then make a list, better start now Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #134

NO shortage of Catholic bashing here & just to be sure, I should put you in the purge the party patrice Mar 2013 #16

Do you support the church's stance on gays and women? Apophis Mar 2013 #38

When an institution enshrines discrimination as official doctrine, yes it is. marmar Mar 2013 #63

We don't bash "liberal institutions"? aquart Mar 2013 #114

There is no room for spirituality of any kind here on DU, whether as part of a religion or not. KittyWampus Mar 2013 #17

Explain what you mean by Scientific Materialism being country to all that is considered progressive. Humanist_Activist Mar 2013 #22

Don't hold your tongue MattBaggins Mar 2013 #35

I bet 99% of the hipsters who jabber about quantum theory jsr Mar 2013 #50

Well stated! corneliamcgillicutty Mar 2013 #42

O M F G WHAT DID I JUST READ? alp227 Mar 2013 #78

it's like the fountain of bullshit RainDog Mar 2013 #90

Philosophical dwarves… it's hilarious. My post points out really super basic philosophical camps. KittyWampus Mar 2013 #97

It's "they're" not "their" RainDog Mar 2013 #98

Reality has been proven by science to be non-local. And many scientists of note are Idealists KittyWampus Mar 2013 #96

Anyone who uses the phrase "proven by science" doesn't know how science works. Humanist_Activist Mar 2013 #109

What's also obnoxious RainDog Mar 2013 #118

LOL! Spare me your adolescent rhetorical attempts at making your own ignorance. KittyWampus Mar 2013 #149

LOL. You're a trip. RainDog Mar 2013 #151

... SidDithers Mar 2013 #84

That deserves a standing ovation Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #135

lol! eShirl Mar 2013 #150

Generally, no one here is worried about spiritual folks who don't belong to organizations Zorra Mar 2013 #163

no...there simply isn't ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #18

Put it another way. Does the Catholic Church upaloopa Mar 2013 #20

Winning Hispanics 2-1 put Obama in the White House BeyondGeography Mar 2013 #28

No one said the "faithful" are child abuse enablers. upaloopa Mar 2013 #36

yes the democratic party cannot become too arrogant liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #44

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #113

63% of Democrats in a Pew Poll identified as "no religion" RainDog Mar 2013 #116

I passed your message onto the Kennedy family. Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #51

Is that really a question you want Catholics to be asking themselves? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #95

The Dem party would not have carried the election without a majority of Catholic voters. pnwmom Mar 2013 #101

Only if you mean "if all Catholics had voted against Obama, he'd have lost" muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #122

Okay, let's look at states with the highest percentages of catholics. hughee99 Mar 2013 #167

I sure hope so. Else what am I doing here? Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2013 #24

Thank you for putting this so well, Tommy Hekate Mar 2013 #33

amen, Tommy CurtEastPoint Mar 2013 #39

well said! liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #40

Great post. davidthegnome Mar 2013 #110

Of course there is. klook Mar 2013 #25

+1 redqueen Mar 2013 #27

voice of reason. Thank you. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #31

Agreed 100%, from another atheist and rank-and-file Democrat. (nt) TacoD Mar 2013 #138

One really has to wonder about the shrill voices on DU... Hekate Mar 2013 #30

DU does not equal the Democratic Party liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #37

Thanks for pointing that out. chieftain Mar 2013 #45

don't get me wrong I think there is a very loud wing of DU that is very anti-religion liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #47

I take your point. chieftain Mar 2013 #59

and it most certainly does not represent Bobbie Jo Mar 2013 #62

ITT: People scrambling to paint one sixth of the planet with a single brush. (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2013 #32

Well, not if you look around at the threads posted today. Zax2me Mar 2013 #43

Correct observation. jsr Mar 2013 #53

Though I no longer consider my self Catholic etherealtruth Mar 2013 #46

Among rank-and-file Dems, certainly. At DU, not so much. 11 Bravo Mar 2013 #48

IMO, "rank and file" Catholics have as much room with rank and file Dems MH1 Mar 2013 #49

Pennsylvania? H2O Man Mar 2013 #52

Excuse me but who are you to make that judgement? I am a catholic and a liberal southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #55

Obviously, I can't speak for the OP ... etherealtruth Mar 2013 #57

Yes your right. There is a lot of mean things said about catholics when really the southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #61

Though I don't consider myself Catholic (or any religion) now ... (ofor a very long time) etherealtruth Mar 2013 #64

people on this website were quick to use Catholics in their argument for birth control liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #66

Yes I know your right on. It's the same way in my family. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #67

Of course there is.... Fresh_Start Mar 2013 #60

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #68

I want to make sure I get this straight etherealtruth Mar 2013 #72

I alerted on a rude, bigoted post today distantearlywarning Mar 2013 #69

I was on a jury today that voted 6-0 to hide a nasty, bigoted, personal post! liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #71

I saw a 5-1 to keep one throwing ethnic slurs around because the target's acceptable. Posteritatis Mar 2013 #73

DU stands strong for the 1st Amendment. I like cultivating the possibility that such posts patrice Mar 2013 #100

Yes, especially the liberation theology Catholics! bobduca Mar 2013 #74

What about Vice President Joe Biden and the Kennedy's? graham4anything Mar 2013 #76

I'm starting to wonder that myself, indeed. Will be a hell of a loss to the party should they Purveyor Mar 2013 #77

This party should be a secular one. alp227 Mar 2013 #79

Bigotry is really shitty. LeftyMom Mar 2013 #80

A+ ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2013 #105

Usually the excuse is some nonsense about changing from within. LeftyMom Mar 2013 #108

Not supporting it is not the same davidthegnome Mar 2013 #111

Uh huh. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2013 #160

How about this? davidthegnome Mar 2013 #162

So are you painting individual's posts with all of DU? I have seen post not favorable to Jews, still_one Mar 2013 #81

Only if you want to win elections MFrohike Mar 2013 #82

I know plenty of rank-and-file Dems who are Catholics. HuckleB Mar 2013 #83

most top ranking dems ARE catholics eom arely staircase Mar 2013 #85

I am not a Catholic. As a rule, Catholics lonestarnot Mar 2013 #87

Yes. I have a problem with the intolerant ricks, nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #92

Yes Politicub Mar 2013 #93

No one is forcing you to be Catholic. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2013 #102

My wife's a Catholic, a Democrat, and a Marxist. But, she doesn't owe fealty to any of them. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #104

Not sure. How's your personal hygiene? Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #106

DU is not "rank and file" Dems....DU is an amazing conglomeration of leftists, Wiccans, trolls..... Rowdyboy Mar 2013 #107

Goodness, what a perfectly silly thing to say. aquart Mar 2013 #112

Assuming you're a Democrat, you seem to still be here. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #115

There is always room Summer Hathaway Mar 2013 #117

There's room for neoliberals. LWolf Mar 2013 #123

This subject just depresses me- because, let's be honest, it's more do Catholics belong at DU el_bryanto Mar 2013 #124

Kinda depends on the Catholic, doesn't it? MNBrewer Mar 2013 #125

For them? Sure. For their corrupt church to be held free from criticism? Fuck no. dmallind Mar 2013 #129

Not unless you believe an institution can be hated without hating cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #130

Of course there is room. murielm99 Mar 2013 #131

You should have included a couple of quotes to illustrate what you're referring to. redqueen Mar 2013 #148

There better be WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #154

Yes, there should be mvd Mar 2013 #155

LOL La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #164

Is there still room in the Catholic church for rank-and-file Democrats? MNBrewer Mar 2013 #165