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pacalo

(24,721 posts)
43. "A rookie mistake".
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 07:53 PM
Feb 2013
Call the dictionary police right freaking now!1!



Granted, you provided the definition that was flashed on the screen at the beginning of Rachel's documentary. My synonyms are also appropriate for the subject matter. My point was based on your short, cryptic post with a link to bradblog.com that asserted that "hubris" suggested the tragic downfall of the guilty party.

I agree with you that it was about oil & I agree with Brad about the forces at work in misleading the country: greed, lust for power, and sadistic vengeance.

As for "seven months of war (through air strikes, as you pointed out in your second reply to me) & not one American...even noticed", that's all on the media, the used-to-be "Fourth Estate" who failed at looking out for the public's interest. What were ordinary Americans supposed to do -- jump in our private jets & helicopters to see for ourselves?

Those of us who were hungry for the truth were damn lucky that Tony Blair jumped on the neocons' gravy-train fiasco because the British citizenry were outraged. Our main sources for the truth & eye-opening ugliness were the British media, particularly The Guardian.

Seven months of war and not one American I knew even noticed. Shameful, really. But then again, most Americans are in a permanent state of somnambulance.


You seem angry about that. Are you aware that we liberals were the only ones searching for the truth? The other side was giddy about war & blindly 100% behind the "hubris". Remember "bomb their @ss, take their gas" from the other side? We liberals watched for news every day for some revelation from the media that the "up is down" mentality would be rescued by logic.

You give the impression that you're angry at the Democrats. Do you remember the "you're either with us or against us" mentality, which was pathetically wrapped in the constant "9/11" reminders by the neocons? People tend to forget that, but I remember the political atmosphere well. There were 21 Democrats who bravely stood up to vote "no" on the war; I have to admit that it was painfully frustrating that there weren't a sufficient number of them voting "no" that could have prevented it from happening.

And for you to come here, to a site where everyone was glued to the information highway with anger, from the moment Bush/Cheney were handed the presidency by SCOTUS through the Iraq war crimes & the teabaggers' chicanery, & tell us that "not one American noticed", that "most Americans are in a permanent state of somnambulance", is flat-out wrong &, frankly, full of "hubris".

yes obxhead Feb 2013 #1
MSNBC was a cheerleader for the Iraq War before they were against it... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #3
so was Hillary Clinton MNBrewer Feb 2013 #4
Their Administration lied to them. Just as they lied and withheld information from Colin Powell. judesedit Feb 2013 #42
Too bad we're not treating those criminals the way criminals need to be treated. MNBrewer Feb 2013 #45
I know it's easy to get them confused, but tavalon Feb 2013 #9
Yes they were, obxhead Feb 2013 #17
Air America was the only place you could get antiwar talk. I efhmc Feb 2013 #22
Air America Didn't Debut Until March, 2004... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #33
Ok, obxhead Feb 2013 #49
Yep, I remember when they cancelled Phil Donahue's show that was doing great. freshwest Feb 2013 #18
And? How does not that fit with what Rachel said? gtar100 Feb 2013 #19
Cable news outlets report what gets ratings and sponsors loyalsister Feb 2013 #35
Ah, yes... "Hubris"... and Rachel Maddow... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #2
I read a book called Hubris on the same subject about 5 years ago, what gives? xtraxritical Feb 2013 #5
The broadcast was based on that book. n/t winter is coming Feb 2013 #6
Oh thanks, now I get it, I thought she was selling a book she wrote. I tuned in a little late! xtraxritical Feb 2013 #26
Ah. Yes, she explained it in the first minute or so of the broadcast. winter is coming Feb 2013 #37
You got that, "pissed me off all over again". You know, President Obama wanted to be a healer. xtraxritical Feb 2013 #44
Ah, yes... Hubris...and Rachael Maddow sheshe2 Feb 2013 #7
True.... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #12
I believe that Rachel is instead using MSNBC sheshe2 Feb 2013 #15
+1 Little Star Feb 2013 #28
You don't seem to recognize that the brad blog you keep referencing tavalon Feb 2013 #10
Of course, bradblog is quite favorable toward "Hubris"... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #13
Are you trying to say we don't? tavalon Feb 2013 #14
Hubris: snort Feb 2013 #21
As I and others said, there was Air America to counter the happy war talk. efhmc Feb 2013 #23
Air America didn't get started until around mid-2004 Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #24
Oh, of course... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #29
Thanks for being a voice of sanity CitizenPatriot Feb 2013 #32
What point(s) did you want to discuss about Brad's article? pacalo Feb 2013 #16
Well said. efhmc Feb 2013 #25
"Hubris" in quotations is just for the title... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #30
Speaking of "rookies" Plucketeer Feb 2013 #31
Well, having actually been there... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #36
LOL! Plucketeer Feb 2013 #38
Your post #31 pretty much nailed it. defacto7 Feb 2013 #39
Deny all you want... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #51
I have to wonder Plucketeer Feb 2013 #53
The question is... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #54
"A rookie mistake". pacalo Feb 2013 #43
Thank you for a reasoned response erronis Feb 2013 #48
Thanks. pacalo Feb 2013 #50
Thank you for the intelligent reply... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #52
Excellent! sheshe2 Feb 2013 #8
Innit? tavalon Feb 2013 #11
Speaking of fab people, amuse bouche Feb 2013 #20
I adore Rachel! Little Star Feb 2013 #27
Good Advice for Everybody. Thanks Cha Feb 2013 #34
Perfect Rachel! defacto7 Feb 2013 #40
Their Administration lied to them. Just as they lied and withheld information from Colin Powell. judesedit Feb 2013 #41
Love this woman. nt cyberpj Feb 2013 #46
Why aren't the war criminals with "Hubris" being held accountable? just1voice Feb 2013 #47
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