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In reply to the discussion: Rachel Maddow: "... you have to stop making stuff up." [View all]pacalo
(24,721 posts)43. "A rookie mistake".
Call the dictionary police right freaking now!1!
Granted, you provided the definition that was flashed on the screen at the beginning of Rachel's documentary. My synonyms are also appropriate for the subject matter. My point was based on your short, cryptic post with a link to bradblog.com that asserted that "hubris" suggested the tragic downfall of the guilty party.
I agree with you that it was about oil & I agree with Brad about the forces at work in misleading the country: greed, lust for power, and sadistic vengeance.
As for "seven months of war (through air strikes, as you pointed out in your second reply to me) & not one American...even noticed", that's all on the media, the used-to-be "Fourth Estate" who failed at looking out for the public's interest. What were ordinary Americans supposed to do -- jump in our private jets & helicopters to see for ourselves?
Those of us who were hungry for the truth were damn lucky that Tony Blair jumped on the neocons' gravy-train fiasco because the British citizenry were outraged. Our main sources for the truth & eye-opening ugliness were the British media, particularly The Guardian.
You seem angry about that. Are you aware that we liberals were the only ones searching for the truth? The other side was giddy about war & blindly 100% behind the "hubris". Remember "bomb their @ss, take their gas" from the other side? We liberals watched for news every day for some revelation from the media that the "up is down" mentality would be rescued by logic.
You give the impression that you're angry at the Democrats. Do you remember the "you're either with us or against us" mentality, which was pathetically wrapped in the constant "9/11" reminders by the neocons? People tend to forget that, but I remember the political atmosphere well. There were 21 Democrats who bravely stood up to vote "no" on the war; I have to admit that it was painfully frustrating that there weren't a sufficient number of them voting "no" that could have prevented it from happening.
And for you to come here, to a site where everyone was glued to the information highway with anger, from the moment Bush/Cheney were handed the presidency by SCOTUS through the Iraq war crimes & the teabaggers' chicanery, & tell us that "not one American noticed", that "most Americans are in a permanent state of somnambulance", is flat-out wrong &, frankly, full of "hubris".
Granted, you provided the definition that was flashed on the screen at the beginning of Rachel's documentary. My synonyms are also appropriate for the subject matter. My point was based on your short, cryptic post with a link to bradblog.com that asserted that "hubris" suggested the tragic downfall of the guilty party.
I agree with you that it was about oil & I agree with Brad about the forces at work in misleading the country: greed, lust for power, and sadistic vengeance.
As for "seven months of war (through air strikes, as you pointed out in your second reply to me) & not one American...even noticed", that's all on the media, the used-to-be "Fourth Estate" who failed at looking out for the public's interest. What were ordinary Americans supposed to do -- jump in our private jets & helicopters to see for ourselves?
Those of us who were hungry for the truth were damn lucky that Tony Blair jumped on the neocons' gravy-train fiasco because the British citizenry were outraged. Our main sources for the truth & eye-opening ugliness were the British media, particularly The Guardian.
Seven months of war and not one American I knew even noticed. Shameful, really. But then again, most Americans are in a permanent state of somnambulance.
You seem angry about that. Are you aware that we liberals were the only ones searching for the truth? The other side was giddy about war & blindly 100% behind the "hubris". Remember "bomb their @ss, take their gas" from the other side? We liberals watched for news every day for some revelation from the media that the "up is down" mentality would be rescued by logic.
You give the impression that you're angry at the Democrats. Do you remember the "you're either with us or against us" mentality, which was pathetically wrapped in the constant "9/11" reminders by the neocons? People tend to forget that, but I remember the political atmosphere well. There were 21 Democrats who bravely stood up to vote "no" on the war; I have to admit that it was painfully frustrating that there weren't a sufficient number of them voting "no" that could have prevented it from happening.
And for you to come here, to a site where everyone was glued to the information highway with anger, from the moment Bush/Cheney were handed the presidency by SCOTUS through the Iraq war crimes & the teabaggers' chicanery, & tell us that "not one American noticed", that "most Americans are in a permanent state of somnambulance", is flat-out wrong &, frankly, full of "hubris".
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Their Administration lied to them. Just as they lied and withheld information from Colin Powell.
judesedit
Feb 2013
#42
Too bad we're not treating those criminals the way criminals need to be treated.
MNBrewer
Feb 2013
#45
Yep, I remember when they cancelled Phil Donahue's show that was doing great.
freshwest
Feb 2013
#18
I read a book called Hubris on the same subject about 5 years ago, what gives?
xtraxritical
Feb 2013
#5
Oh thanks, now I get it, I thought she was selling a book she wrote. I tuned in a little late!
xtraxritical
Feb 2013
#26
You got that, "pissed me off all over again". You know, President Obama wanted to be a healer.
xtraxritical
Feb 2013
#44