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None in the US should be exposed to Sex or Nudity until over THIRTY (at least)!!!
RKP5637
Feb 2013
#57
And then only in the context of marriage, or enhanced interrogation,
kenny blankenship
Feb 2013
#126
Do you know any 16 yr olds that haven't figured out how to get better off the internet for free?
Major Nikon
Feb 2013
#216
13% of teens have had sex by age 15. young people have sex for the first time at about age 17,
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#321
my child goes to an adults house and served booze (cause the parent wants to be cool)
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#10
It depends on what the law actually says. We do have laws around statutory rape in some places
el_bryanto
Feb 2013
#24
and i was raised in calif, on a swim team and we were in essence naked all the time.
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#59
you compare it to teenage years playing on the beach, to drawing nudes, to merely seeing boobies...
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#63
you say all kinds of shit thru out the thread and then pretend you didnt. ya. a bore. nt
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#70
"first one to claim all men are evil pigs". "consistently conflated and twisted my words"
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#78
Why are you avoiding the very clear statement I have made regarding the CRIME?
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#83
so i use your words. you make stuff up. and you call me out. what a fuckin' hoot. nt
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#113
First, this wasn't just nudity as you seem to admit with your next accusation against Sea...
DevonRex
Feb 2013
#349
Oh, now bathing suits make one "essentially naked"? Well, it is the QUALIFIER that counts here.
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#77
if you saw the speedos of the 70' and 80's, when wet, or hell, even dry, pretty much.
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#82
I had to borrow a Speedo to go to the pool in 8th grade and the guy who loaned it to me...
Gorp
Feb 2013
#301
There was at least one 13 year old at this party. The arrest took place in that context.
pnwmom
Feb 2013
#351
like not all men want to go to strip bars, not all boys want to have a stripper rub her crotch in
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#32
Sex crimes against minors do not involve an element of consent, generally, so the issue of 'force'
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#130
Didn't they used to call that 'contributing to the delinquincy of a minor'?
Gidney N Cloyd
Feb 2013
#15
I heard some pundit guffawing that he could not believe that ANY 16 year old American boy
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#5
Dressing in drag and being gay are not the same things. It is not the case that outgoing gay
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#154
Wow. What you are doing is defining your cross dressing friend as having a gay 'lifestyle' while
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#239
WTF has happened to you all of a sudden? You are behaving as if you have had some sort of major
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#368
16 year olds cant see a stripper but they CAN get pregnant and decide wether or no to have an
leftyohiolib
Feb 2013
#23
If you don't want your daughter seeing strippers then this OP is bullshit deluxe
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#27
Who invented "18?" Atman, I've had criminal clients ask me the same question.
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#58
Yes. It is the law. It is what matters. People who don't get that simple concept tend to be my
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#73
Oh, I read all your posts--including #60, where you note that no minor was 'forced'--as if that's an
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#88
Really? 16 year olds go off to war in this country? And I thought you liked lawsuits?
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#199
If you find my memory inconvenient, perhaps you should refrain from posting to me. nt
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#227
I have a memory palace. DU has a room. Your Mother's Day thread was one for the ages.
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#247
right. it is a deragatory and demeaning comment made toward the stripper to show the disrespect
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#105
once again, who is making stuff up? did i say that? no. and you did not address
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#119
not all men choose to live in this hypocrisy, but the men that do insist all men feel as they do.
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#158
Yep-just marriage to 'females' at around 13 or so. I assume they'll be celibate...for some reason.
jmg257
Feb 2013
#144
How in the world did you read into this that I was for it? I'm pointing out the inconsistency in
RKP5637
Feb 2013
#142
Yep, it could be confusing as written. I'll leave it as is for now. Thanks for getting back to me!
RKP5637
Feb 2013
#151
DO you think a man who has sex with a girl of 15 should be charged with statutory rape?
jmg257
Feb 2013
#117
Please self-delete this post and delete the derogatory, sexist term that you used.
yardwork
Feb 2013
#159
wrong. the hunks junk is not ok because boys and girls are different. not ok for the girl and the
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#189
What does 18 have to do with anything I said? Nothing. Why not speak to what I really said?
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#217
Those moral and ethical difference are merely observers holding two equals do unequal standards
LanternWaste
Feb 2013
#180
So we've established that your preferred age for defacto adulthood among men is 16.
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2013
#254
I think it's endangering the welfare of a child to expose them to sexually explicit material.
Nine
Feb 2013
#22
the OP thinks casual nudity is the same as a sexually charged performance intended to excite.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#33
You claim a lap dance is the same as 'seeing boobies' and keep insisting ALL boys would dig that.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#41
You post said this is all about 'seeing boobies'. Yet the photos from the story show lap dances.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#55
If it's a crime to take your son to a strip club for his 16th birthday and buy him a lap dance
gollygee
Feb 2013
#42
Paying a sex worker to touch your minor child is a crime. What are you not getting?
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#46
Was the nude model paid for by your parents, did she touch you, and did others watch and take
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#49
I've never seen a figure drawing class that allowed physical contact or leering at the models.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#124
maybe even talked about her "skanky snatch" since it is a known stripper term. nt
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#128
I was upset at about 11 or less that there were no such things (to my knowledge) as
RKP5637
Feb 2013
#61
As a criminal defense attorney, I have to disagree....the issue is not rearing a child as
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#190
I agree that the best solution all around may be a civil case....but here's the problem...
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#221
Does the right to raise a child as a parent sees fit extend to... say... buying them alcohol? n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2013
#271
How is a nude man rubbing his crotch against a 16 year old woman-child..."endangerment"? HMMMMM??
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#68
Yes, a stranger's naked genitals up close is a dream come true. Post a pic of yours!
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#84
Really? And would said boy like it if his friends and MOM observed his 16-yr-old boy reaction?
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#89
because that is really not even close to saying the same thing. i too, can roll my eyes.
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#109
'Every boy would want this' is a sexist, and perhaps homophobic assumption.
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#102
exactly. further, they are not allowed to express it because men like on this thread
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#111
most all men in my life, but a drunk brother, would have been "outraged". but then,
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#263
Do you not understand that procuring sex workers for your minor child is a crime? nt
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#97
Well, this is a democracy. You can file a suit, or you can elect legislators, or heck, you can even
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#122
What kid wouldn't enjoy playing X-box every day instead of going to school?
LanternWaste
Feb 2013
#214
I don't know how they were endangered and it seems like no one else does either
TheKentuckian
Feb 2013
#91
Excuse--I know precisely why they were endangered, and I have stated it quite a few times.
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#96
13% of teens have had sex by age 15. young people have sex for the first time at about age 17,
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#135
i am pointing out where what you experience is not everyones experience. you do not like that.
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#152
"So a 16 year old, already likely sexually active," YOU said this. YOU are wrong. every stat
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#167
No--I'm reciting the elements of the crime. Do you dispute any of those elements? nt
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#141
Really? You can touch minors below the age of consent in NYS as long as you are wearing panties and
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#211
Really? One minor was bit on the nipple and scratched. You have that happen in from of many 13
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#328
Would you support prosecution if your daughter had been one of the kids at this party?
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2013
#264
I can understand a nude woman at a supervised art/photo class involving figure studies...
edbermac
Feb 2013
#140
SOCIETY is harmed by this. It's exploitative of the dancer. It's age-inappropriate
Romulox
Feb 2013
#164
having two sons this age, ya, i get it. and not seeing a lot of difference what they are going
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#267
No problem, seabeyond. I think it's a lot harder to be a kid today then when I was a boy. nt
Romulox
Feb 2013
#347
so true. and it makes it no easier for a parent fighting against this garbage being fed
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#348
Intimate dances by a stripper for 5 minors under the age of 17 = Child endangerment nt
Poll_Blind
Feb 2013
#160
I read that they are considering charges against the strippers and the company.
FedUpWithIt All
Feb 2013
#298
both the Mom and stripper no doubt, broke the law. i bet there will be charges brought.
bettyellen
Feb 2013
#300
Well - HER son might not of minded. The other 13/14/15 yr olds and their folks might have.
jmg257
Feb 2013
#224
In reality, he probably wasn't in any danger, but its still justifiably a crime.
phleshdef
Feb 2013
#237
Maybe it wasn't the nudity (it wasn't). Maybe it was the sexual contact with various juveniles?
jmg257
Feb 2013
#245
I also want you to be aware there are three different threads in META about you post right now.
hrmjustin
Feb 2013
#299
A teen CHOOSING to sneak into a strip club for a "peek" is quite different
FedUpWithIt All
Feb 2013
#290
A 14 yr old girl may "love" having sex with her 27 (or 35 or 42) yr old boyfriend
FedUpWithIt All
Feb 2013
#318
"the kids in the room intensely uncomfortable," what fuckin' right does an adult have to put a
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#331
because one is a boy and one is a girl. and they are sexually SOOO much different.
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#340
Except, as has been pointed out countless times, not all the kids were 16
FedUpWithIt All
Feb 2013
#358
And your daughter, going to a party where she is subjected to her peers recieving lap dances?
FedUpWithIt All
Feb 2013
#363
Persistent dumb ass at that..."16 year old young man saw a stripper". More then that though, right?
jmg257
Feb 2013
#325
There was no nudity, yet you claim it is all about nudity. A crime is what the law says is a crime.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#334
What your post illustrates is that you don't know what happened. It is not what they SAW.
DevonRex
Feb 2013
#357
I went on an optional Saturday "cultural" field trip to SF's North Beach in the late 60s
PufPuf23
Feb 2013
#355
If the stripper was displaying her body in a sexually stimulative way
aint_no_life_nowhere
Feb 2013
#364