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Sun Feb 17, 2013, 07:08 PM

124. My hospital actually has a policy specifically regarding a scenario like this.

Although the patient is an elderly white patient who states she herself doesn't want a black nurse. Anyhoo, as long as I can remember, as long as I've worked for our hospital, the policy has ALWAYS been that the patient is not allowed to pick and choose nurses based on skin color or religious background. Gender, yes (for example female Muslim patients who only want to be attended by females).

I don't know if it's federal policy or what, but fact is, at my hospital, the law of the land is that this father had no case. Now, given that the charge nurse was probably scared shitless of him (I know I would have been), what she SHOULD HAVE done is immediately called patient relations and the nursing supervisor. I dunno, it sounds like the charge nurse either is a new one or hasn't been in many hairy situations before.

At any rate, yeah, it's gonna go to court and get ugly, but in the end I do believe the nurse is the one with the valid case here, if my hospital's policy is any sort of precedent.

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170 replies	Author	Time	Post
Black Nurse Sues Hospital for Not Letting Her Take Care of White Baby [View all]	The Straight Story	Feb 2013	OP
I just can't wrap my brain around this type of ignorance.	Marrah_G	Feb 2013	#1
I know, why sue? She should be happy she had less work to do....	The Straight Story	Feb 2013	#2
You almost had me there for a moment	Marrah_G	Feb 2013	#4
What a Nut!	goclark	Feb 2013	#3
Yes and/but	elleng	Feb 2013	#6
How true.	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#27
Absolutely,	elleng	Feb 2013	#29
To quote my favorite line from the old TV series "ER".....	llmart	Feb 2013	#151
SO the Hospital Abides??!!	lunasun	Feb 2013	#103
The hospital will lose this one, as well it should.	elleng	Feb 2013	#5
As sick and vile the request by the parent was...	FarPoint	Feb 2013	#11
Because it is illegal to discrimate re: race	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	#14
Such similar requests happen every day in a medical-clinical setting.	FarPoint	Feb 2013	#19
Assuming the hospital benefits from Federal funds,	elleng	Feb 2013	#31
"trust relationship"	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#33
The hospital should've requested the man transfer his infant to another hospital.	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#38
Ah but if they do that...	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#45
But the Nazi has no basis in law to sue. Protest, yes. Nothing can be done about that.	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#48
Many said that the KKK didn't have a case either.	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#57
That's a freedom of expression case. There is a basis in law for it. There is none for requesting...	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#65
that's not the KKK...the KKK is a designated terrorist group in the US. Those are Nazis...I know,..	uponit7771	Feb 2013	#87
I think you responded to the wrong post. I didn't mention the KKK. nt	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#101
Shot themselves in the foot when they named names.	TheMadMonk	Feb 2013	#162
I would have to believe safety was part of the reason	Arcanetrance	Feb 2013	#80
That's not a legal defense. If someone is concerned about safety, they are supposed to call the law.	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#102
I agree it wasn't the proper choice	Arcanetrance	Feb 2013	#104
Doubt it.	elleng	Feb 2013	#43
They knew they were between a rock and a hard place.	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#60
Putting emotions aside And how	LukeFL	Feb 2013	#92
The difference is that there is a federal law prohibiting discrimination on race. He could've asked	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#36
However, it is the patient/ parent of the child, not the hospital that had a problem.	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#44
It's a dilemma. Seems they didn't give that reason (safety), and they didn't transfer the baby	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#46
I can say that the hospital will find precedent for doing what they did..	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#50
Hospitals don't find precedent. Courts do. This has been litigated before.	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#66
This case will set no precedent.	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2013	#63
Yes it will.	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#68
um, the father is not the patient	magical thyme	Feb 2013	#98
The parents speak for the child.	FarPoint	Feb 2013	#100
Then you may want to contact that hospital's law dept. because they disagree with you	magical thyme	Feb 2013	#106
This will be an intresting Court case.	FarPoint	Feb 2013	#107
Agreed.	magical thyme	Feb 2013	#110
The patient is a baby that does not know those "beliefs" yet.	Jamastiene	Feb 2013	#113
On the contrary...	FarPoint	Feb 2013	#115
It is a hospital serving the public, and has to abide by the laws of the land.	still_one	Feb 2013	#156
If the request was made without inferring the reason was due to race or ethnicity, it would not be	still_one	Feb 2013	#155
NO NO NO...A truly good hospital would have...	SkyDaddy7	Feb 2013	#157
while the hospital	sabbat hunter	Feb 2013	#51
Let him flip out	FrodosPet	Feb 2013	#90
That's not how it works, unfortunately	Scootaloo	Feb 2013	#77
Please cite the law that states patients have the absolute right to choose the ethnicity/religion	Blue_Tires	Feb 2013	#128
Hmmm, may just be nursing homes.	Scootaloo	Feb 2013	#130
My father was a doctor for 35 years	Blue_Tires	Feb 2013	#131
obamanut said it:	elleng	Feb 2013	#15
Because the hospital hired the nurse based on training and skill	malaise	Feb 2013	#16
It's tough. They had to reassign temporarily, and ask the man to move his infant to another hosp.	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#39
you need far more help than can be provided here	Skittles	Feb 2013	#147
Excuse me???????????	FarPoint	Feb 2013	#149
oh, LOLOL!	Skittles	Feb 2013	#150
Because it was based on race, and that violates the civil rights act	still_one	Feb 2013	#154
Un... I think for the safety of the nurse, the hospital did right.	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#21
By that same logic, an unarmed Nazi can walk into a bank	Jamastiene	Feb 2013	#114
That is not the same and you know it.	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#116
Not the same? You just compared this to a Nazi group's right to have a parade	CreekDog	Feb 2013	#118
I am on the money.	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#122
should have told the father to take his business elsewhere.	robinlynne	Feb 2013	#53
The father should have thought of this BEFORE,	elleng	Feb 2013	#55
I hope she sues the father also	newfie11	Feb 2013	#7
He didn't break the law. nt	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#40
They should have told him to get out and take his nazi baby with him.	xilify	Feb 2013	#8
That simple n/t	malaise	Feb 2013	#17
Yep, except keep the Nazi baby	wickerwoman	Feb 2013	#18
And then the NAZI family wins a big payout for negligence	Confusious	Feb 2013	#34
The hospital had no duty to perform an illegal request.	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2013	#64
It was not an illegal request and the hospital has a legal duty to treat	pediatricmedic	Feb 2013	#73
The request itself wasn't illegal.	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2013	#74
This message was self-deleted by its author	Confusious	Feb 2013	#76
There's no such thing as a Nazi baby!	PaddyIrishman	Feb 2013	#93
Poor baby.	postulater	Feb 2013	#9
Amen	leftynyc	Feb 2013	#59
Amen +1	aptal	Feb 2013	#99
+1000 Da*n Right!	southern_belle	Feb 2013	#127
+1000	smirkymonkey	Feb 2013	#81
Truth. That poor baby's last link to loving kindness will be the nurse 'dad' hated. nt	Nay	Feb 2013	#83
The request of the parent is indeed	FarPoint	Feb 2013	#10
Hell,	wickerwoman	Feb 2013	#20
I imagine nurses and such medical professionals	FarPoint	Feb 2013	#22
Well, she was reassigned. She wasn't terminated. Unless she chose to move on.	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#41
As a male in the medical field...	Skeletor	Feb 2013	#97
If true, the nurse will win this hands down	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	#12
I'm not sure this is a slam-dunk case....	FarPoint	Feb 2013	#25
Add to it...	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#30
There better have been some demonstrable overt threats - such threats ...	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2013	#67
I take it you never been around this type of people.	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#69
Maybe hospitals in Michigan and Idaho should....	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2013	#70
Unnn, nah...they can't use that for racist reasons...get the racist out not the employee	uponit7771	Feb 2013	#84
You are correct, patient rights has a LOT of weight	pediatricmedic	Feb 2013	#32
Yeap....this is an ethical/public opinion win for the nurse	FarPoint	Feb 2013	#42
but I dont think that particular belief system counts as a belief system. It breaks the law.	robinlynne	Feb 2013	#54
right, and the law is well established on discrimination	uponit7771	Feb 2013	#85
If the hospital felt the Father posed a threat to the Nurse's safety, she should have been informed…	Journeyman	Feb 2013	#13
If she decided to keep taking care of the child...	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#23
+1	uponit7771	Feb 2013	#86
That poor child. Born to such a family.	Solly Mack	Feb 2013	#24
The father may be a white supremist	riverbendviewgal	Feb 2013	#26
I'm torn here....	ProudToBeBlueInRhody	Feb 2013	#28
Seems to me the hospital was inbetween a rock and hard place.	Confusious	Feb 2013	#35
"The hospital more than likely rather have an angry nurse than a severely hurt or dead one."	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#37
That's bullshit...The hospital brass were cowards in this and you know it	Blue_Tires	Feb 2013	#132
I rather have a live nurce. n/t	Lady Freedom Returns	Feb 2013	#139
Thats how I feel...	Earth_First	Feb 2013	#61
What the fuck year is this?.......................	mrmpa	Feb 2013	#47
I........what?? WTF	Skittles	Feb 2013	#49
He should have been given an immediate vasectomey.	smirkymonkey	Feb 2013	#82
holy shit. she should sue.	robinlynne	Feb 2013	#52
What happens if its the opposite...the nurse is forced to care for the nazi parents child	dkf	Feb 2013	#56
What if the nurse, offended by the tattoo, refused to care for the child? nt	Skip Intro	Feb 2013	#62
Lot's of bad things can happen to the nurse	pediatricmedic	Feb 2013	#72
is that the only thing you can think of commenting here?	CreekDog	Feb 2013	#119
What if everybody refused to play your little game?	Skip Intro	Feb 2013	#120
Presented with racism against a black person	CreekDog	Feb 2013	#125
What if frogs had wings?	Jamastiene	Feb 2013	#134
Read. I was replying to a what-if post with another what-if.	Skip Intro	Feb 2013	#135
because in practice, you take issue with and try to change the subject when racism against blacks...	CreekDog	Feb 2013	#140
your empty and unfounded accusatory bs just makes me	Skip Intro	Feb 2013	#141
the other poster noticed it too	CreekDog	Feb 2013	#142
Oh CD, what would DU do without you going around accusing other DUers	Skip Intro	Feb 2013	#143
No, it was you that got mocked and criticized in Meta	CreekDog	Feb 2013	#144
.	Skip Intro	Feb 2013	#145
I don't see anything earth shattering in those	CreekDog	Feb 2013	#146
That's called doing one's job...	LanternWaste	Feb 2013	#148
Is it a requirement that one must provided services to those who	dkf	Feb 2013	#160
The baby was at the hospital for weeks.	Nine	Feb 2013	#58
more info here	Nine	Feb 2013	#71
Amazing the hospital is this ignorant. n/t	Demo_Chris	Feb 2013	#75
Maybe They Were Afraid He'd Come Back w/a Gun	otohara	Feb 2013	#94
If that's Hurly Medical Center in Flint Michigan,	defacto7	Feb 2013	#78
reported second-hand via the british murdoch rag "daily mail". i have my doubts.	HiPointDem	Feb 2013	#79
I agree regarding the Daily Mail. However, this is confirmed by local accounts and CNN.	Nine	Feb 2013	#88
Well, it's not like the OP cited the WSWS, after all. nt	msanthrope	Feb 2013	#126
To be fair to the hospital.........	OceanEcosystem	Feb 2013	#89
The hospital knows it was wrong.	Nine	Feb 2013	#91
It obnoxious to think there are people on DU defending	Jamastiene	Feb 2013	#117
That's how I know I've stayed at DU a little too long...	Blue_Tires	Feb 2013	#129
amen	DonCoquixote	Feb 2013	#158
Huh? (nt)	Nine	Feb 2013	#159
The request by the father is repugnant...	Bay Boy	Feb 2013	#95
What loss did the RN have, you ask?	Nine	Feb 2013	#96
Ummm...her dignity? Respect?	ScreamingMeemie	Feb 2013	#123
How about her right to do her job in a workplace free of discrimination and intimidation??	Blue_Tires	Feb 2013	#133
This is almost beyond words.	Motown_Johnny	Feb 2013	#137
She was discriminated against and humiliated	gollygee	Feb 2013	#163
Her loss: she was legally discriminated against	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	#166
This message was self-deleted by its author	Shankapotomus	Feb 2013	#105
Poor baby born to a father like that. Let's hope s/he breaks the cycle. nt	Doremus	Feb 2013	#108
Wish there was a way they could take that baby away from those racist pieces of shit	cherish44	Feb 2013	#109
How is this any different	roxy1234	Feb 2013	#111
I hope she can get a hefty amount and a job at a better place.	Jamastiene	Feb 2013	#112
Hospitals are known for throwing nurses under the bus	rainbow4321	Feb 2013	#121
My hospital actually has a policy specifically regarding a scenario like this.	Butterbean	Feb 2013	#124
How is the third sentence below in the same article with the other two?	skypilot	Feb 2013	#136
They not only should have told Young Adolf to shove it,	KamaAina	Feb 2013	#138
There were no grounds to call CPS	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	#167
Making such an outrageous demand about his child's care	KamaAina	Feb 2013	#170
Another bad thing about this is that racists have babies and raise new racists.	Lint Head	Feb 2013	#152
Actually the issue was the hospital following the racist's request. However, should the hospital be	still_one	Feb 2013	#153
The dad is a neo-Nazi and they DIDN'T call Children's Services?	Ken Burch	Feb 2013	#161
It isn't illegal to be a Neo Nazi	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	#165
The hospital was wrong, but it was a tricky situation	sir pball	Feb 2013	#164
Message auto-removed	Kevski	Feb 2013	#168
Care to expand on that thought?	Nine	Feb 2013	#169

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