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politicat

(9,808 posts)
77. I use the transatlantic routes when I go to Europe.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 02:59 PM
Feb 2013

I'm not afraid to fly ( I love it) but I have serious ethical and environmental concerns about flying. I spend 6-8 weeks every other year in Europe doing research and I go by ship.

Ships have three advantages - fewer limitations on what I can take and a greater quantity, no jet lag, and comparable cost in money. The downside is time -- it takes me 7 days each way, but I use those 14 days to write without interruption. (Not much Internet at sea.) Flying from the the US to the UK costs about $800 each way; going steerage (inside cabin, regular food) is about $950. I am usually taking a considerable quantity of research materials, and for my 2015 trip, considerable other equipment that I could not take at all on a flight (few musicians these days trust an airline with an instrument, for example) plus extended personal gear. Given that one box of research material can weigh well over the 50 pound limit, the baggage fees get high fast.

They're slow, but Cunard is very good -- worst I've ever dealt with is rough seas and sea sickness.

I've never been on another line, but people who have been on ship with me have said that some of the other lines cut corners that are points of pride for Cunard.

I don't think it is a fear of flying Samjm Feb 2013 #1
I would guess that might be the case for some Floyd_Gondolli Feb 2013 #2
I don't think so Bandit Feb 2013 #3
No, I think a lot of them go because of the relaxation between ports Warpy Feb 2013 #4
o.k.....! give you guys that..but busterbrown Feb 2013 #10
Someday I might do one Warpy Feb 2013 #17
It depends on the cruise ship: maxsolomon Feb 2013 #23
Link? gateley Feb 2013 #30
oh yeah, sorry! maxsolomon Feb 2013 #75
Thanks! I've heard of it. I'm going to the site and fantasize!! gateley Feb 2013 #79
I don't drink or gamble, and I've really enjoyed the cruises I've taken. gateley Feb 2013 #28
Disgusting? Floyd_Gondolli Feb 2013 #29
Took one to Alaska nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #33
More like a floating petri dish... CTyankee Feb 2013 #37
You are bad!!! Don’t spoil it for the folks.. busterbrown Feb 2013 #54
Legionnaire's disease RC Feb 2013 #56
I was young in new york at a bar on second ave with my friend trying to pick up some girls when the busterbrown Feb 2013 #61
I don't think people go on cruises to avoid air travel. Ron Green Feb 2013 #5
I think its the drinking and partying. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #6
Yep..shore excursions are expensive and not "all that".. SoCalDem Feb 2013 #11
What cruise line stopped in Haiti? Bay Boy Feb 2013 #58
This was in the 70's...soon after the Duvalier ouster ( Papa Doc) SoCalDem Feb 2013 #72
Maybe on Cunard... Cooley Hurd Feb 2013 #7
I'm looking forward to seeing the Queen Mary 2 a few times this summer Posteritatis Feb 2013 #12
A fine vessel - if only she were Scottish-built. Cooley Hurd Feb 2013 #22
That saddens me - "hotel ship" for cruise/passenger liners is ship-ese for "hospice," basically Posteritatis Feb 2013 #31
She's sailing there under her own power (not being towed) so that's a bright spot Cooley Hurd Feb 2013 #50
no, i think they just like the whole luxury/entertainment of it JI7 Feb 2013 #8
It is definitely for luxury/entertainment. RebelOne Feb 2013 #26
Like Vegas cyglet Feb 2013 #70
You don't get on a cruise ship for the destination, you get on it for the cruise Posteritatis Feb 2013 #9
no, most people have to fly from their homes to pnwest Feb 2013 #13
for most people it's the 4-star all-you-can-eat food. unblock Feb 2013 #14
No, I don't think you can say "most people". djean111 Feb 2013 #21
What does fear of flying have to do with cruise ships? TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #15
man you have no idea how so many take cruise ships for vacations... busterbrown Feb 2013 #16
A cruise for a vacation is much different than flying to get somewhere. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #24
There are some great Blues music cruises Isoldeblue Feb 2013 #18
Yes -- a lot of theme cruises which is nice. gateley Feb 2013 #32
don’t a lot of people on cruise ships travel on these ships because of their fear of flying. Flashmann Feb 2013 #19
I hear people die in car accidents too... Bay Boy Feb 2013 #60
have you given up driving too? Flashmann Feb 2013 #63
Thousands of pilots fly multiple routes per day Bay Boy Feb 2013 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author Flashmann Feb 2013 #73
I am aware that statistics support that Flashmann Feb 2013 #74
I took my transatlantic cruise because it was a dream, of mine Siwsan Feb 2013 #20
How do you think most people get to the port? brooklynite Feb 2013 #25
You get a lot for your money Yavin4 Feb 2013 #27
I still think they are like floating mini malls.... busterbrown Feb 2013 #34
I have no desire to take a cruise. AngryOldDem Feb 2013 #35
I sort of like traveling by ship, or train, or car when I'm not in a hurry to get someplace Cleita Feb 2013 #36
I only had one long-distance train trip but that was enough to hook me Posteritatis Feb 2013 #40
In the old days they had pullmans so you had a bed to sleep in. Cleita Feb 2013 #44
Yeah, that was my own experience Posteritatis Feb 2013 #46
Have been on 3 cruises, had to fly to port for each one - lynne Feb 2013 #38
Yes, when you consider it's your transportation, your hotel and your restaurant all Cleita Feb 2013 #45
Jam Cruise -smoking is legal ErikJ Feb 2013 #39
Nothing beats a cross-country 1960's Greyhound bus with broken a/c TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #41
I don't think so. I use to like flying but not anymore. I don't like going throw all southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #42
The ocean liners back in the forties and fifties were great. My parents and I traveled on Cleita Feb 2013 #47
Yes indeed. Those were the great days of travelling. Even flying was wonderful back then. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #48
Some river cruises in Europe appeal to me but I am put off by the risk of ship wide infection. CTyankee Feb 2013 #43
Last ship I was on, they disinfected everything and everyone. Every time you went into Cleita Feb 2013 #49
well, the Dutch staff ("captain" and cook) were great on my little barge in the Netherlands... CTyankee Feb 2013 #62
How nice! PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #52
I'm going on one to London...a new trip...over Memorial Day. CTyankee Feb 2013 #65
Boy, do I agree with that. busterbrown Feb 2013 #55
Im afraid of cruises .. SummerSnow Feb 2013 #51
I have worked for the airlines for years... pink-o Feb 2013 #53
My mother worked for Braniff in Dallas and got these terrific trips which I was on... CTyankee Feb 2013 #66
I took a Windjammer "Barefoot" cruise in 2004. It wasn't about getting to a destination cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #57
You Have To Fly to The Get to The Ship otohara Feb 2013 #59
Were I to go on a cruise, that WOULD be my reason (yet I've flown to Europe a dozen times). WinkyDink Feb 2013 #64
I love to fly and I take a lot of cruises WilmywoodNCparalegal Feb 2013 #67
No, they're tourists, not travelers. alarimer Feb 2013 #69
People have different reasons for going on cruise ships. bluestate10 Feb 2013 #71
no you go on a cruise to go on a cruise TeamPooka Feb 2013 #76
I use the transatlantic routes when I go to Europe. politicat Feb 2013 #77
There's also freighter travel, Glaug-Eldare Feb 2013 #78
Not necessarily. politicat Feb 2013 #80
Really? Sounds like a badass deal. n/t Glaug-Eldare Feb 2013 #81
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