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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 02:21 PM Feb 2013

So people in the service industry [View all]

In Florida are sort of happy that them bad tipper Canuck snow birds might stop their travels to Florida.

You know what is so gobsmacking amazing in this story? No, not that most tipping guides recommend 15% in tips and not 20% except for a few circumstances. Nope that s not the gobsmacking part. The incredible part is that people blame the tippers and not the fact that they get paid like shit and depend on those tips to make ends meet.

Now, and I have had these conversations with California service workers, who for the record get far better base pay, and introduce the idea of well, demanding better pay and benefits...are you a commie or something? The mere idea that a state wide, or nation wide strike to demand better pay is seen as somehow un american is what s gobsmacking shocking. It s truly a may I have another Sir moment. .

Oh and if worst case Canadian snow birds do travel to other states or countries, Floridian policy makers will blame everybody, but themselves, and those service workers will miss those poor tippers too.

But speak of better pay and benefits...

I gotta say, while gobsmacking, it is hardly surprising any more.

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So people in the service industry [View all] nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 OP
No, they won't miss them at all.... n/t Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #1
A state that depends on tourism nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #2
I live in FL, Palm Beach County to be exact. Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #4
I am talking at the macro level nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #5
"So people in the service industry" Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #6
Actually the data shows that higher pay leads to an overall stimulative nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #7
Krugman will tell you Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #8
And he will cite other economists. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #10
We are talking a particular Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #16
You missed this by light seconds. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #17
! zappaman Feb 2013 #18
You are right how the credit crisis and recession of 2008 barely touched Cdn Banks riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #20
Hey there riverbendviewgal... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #21
How about the restaurantst put out a notice on their menues riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #22
^^^____^^^^ this nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #33
Great you started this....Here is some info for everyone to get an idea riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #3
This. WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #9
None is arguing that people should not be tipped. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #11
OMG you described what it was like for me to be a server riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #35
To be honest, there's enough ire to go around--As a licensed hairstylist who ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #12
We tip well, but that was not the point nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #13
I'll repeat as well--a server can find it within themselves to be angry at current wages and at poor ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #14
And socially acceptable guides say 15% nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #15
Oprah is generally "out of line" - Her stance on tipping, GoneOffShore Feb 2013 #19
The two issues are not mututally exclusive. yewberry Feb 2013 #23
A service charge of 8 percent should be added to every meal ticket. This is what the server Cleita Feb 2013 #24
I like this idea nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #25
No. Raise the price of all meals 8% and pay the wait staff fair pay. JimDandy Feb 2013 #26
You can add the 8%, but you do it on the menu, so the consumer won't really Cleita Feb 2013 #27
If I am in the minority, all the better reason to add the 8% to the price on the menu JimDandy Feb 2013 #28
I doubt it. Cleita Feb 2013 #29
The point is JimDandy Feb 2013 #30
I find the whole tipping thing repulsive. I would much prefer to pay more for my dinner, madinmaryland Feb 2013 #31
That was the point, in part nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #32
Yes. I just have to make my point, too! Glad we agree. madinmaryland Feb 2013 #34
i agree riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #36
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