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In reply to the discussion: So, how should cops have taken Dorner alive? [View all]Progressive dog
(6,902 posts)172. Oh, you said without further loss of life
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yes, and then the police would be castigated over not delivering pizzas and beer to his front
CAG
Feb 2013
#28
No, the complaint would be the pizza was cold. I remember when a prison was going to cold lunches
KittyWampus
Feb 2013
#119
+1000; lots of tactical armchair experts around here who just KNOW that they could have
CAG
Feb 2013
#5
He shot himself rather than leave the building, so for all practical purposes
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#134
or the doner could have walked out of the burning house and not shot himself
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#133
yes, I am particularly interested in the "without further loss of life" part, because out of all
CAG
Feb 2013
#4
I'm sorry. my response was rude. didnt mean it the way I said it. response to reply 7
robinlynne
Feb 2013
#11
The FBI, the U.S. Marshal's Service and the San Berdadino PD made these decisions.
randome
Feb 2013
#146
It's the lack of second guessing that has turned PDs across the country into travesties of justice.
EOTE
Feb 2013
#174
It was tear gas that set the place on fire. He punked out and shot himself.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#9
The "they" that shot up the women in the truck were not the "they" who used an APV to tear down
MADem
Feb 2013
#118
Some of us feel that the tactics that the cops did use put lives at risk.
backscatter712
Feb 2013
#75
SWAT would have been sent in to storm the house. That usually involves shooting the suspect.
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#67
so you do understand now that he WAS given plenty of opportunities to surrender, right?
uppityperson
Feb 2013
#87
So, the fact that he was fucked in the head means they deprived him of due
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#95
Setting fire to cabin (possibly after he shot himself). Sniper. What exactly is the difference?
onenote
Feb 2013
#22
Well, nobodyspecial, an hour has passed and I don't see anybody answering your excellent
CAG
Feb 2013
#31
Then the same posters would be screaming that police are starving Dorner to death and demanding
LisaL
Feb 2013
#36
Really? So you would be just fine if they cut off his supply of water, he had no food, and
LisaL
Feb 2013
#42
I am absolutely positive one can last quite a bit longer than 3-4 days without water.
LisaL
Feb 2013
#53
He didn't have the motivation to surrender when he was trapped in that cabin? What do you think
onenote
Feb 2013
#56
He had had that option for about a week, but decided to kill innocent people instead.
CAG
Feb 2013
#59
It takes a week to 10 days to die of dehydration, not 3-4. And he had lots of times and motivation
uppityperson
Feb 2013
#90
How do you ensure he doesn't escape during the evening. How many days do you surround
onenote
Feb 2013
#51
They could have set up a perimiter and simply waited, there was no where for Dorner to go!
DrewFlorida
Feb 2013
#66
Lots of perps with guns have been contained and captured or killed with conventional tactics.
backscatter712
Feb 2013
#82
So it's perfectly fine for a perp to be killed, as long as tactics are conventional?
LisaL
Feb 2013
#84
Well, if that someone wasn't setting out to kill them, maybe they would be more inclined to try.
LisaL
Feb 2013
#85
He had already tried to leave the cabin but they pushed him back in, I guess using guns.
dkf
Feb 2013
#98
I'm incredulous that you don't see they had an urgency because he could have escaped.
dkf
Feb 2013
#113
He killed himself only because he realized he couldn't kill any more cops.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#108
They didn't move in. Instead of sending people, they sent tear gas cannisters in.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#115
Did Dahmer, Manson, or Gacy resist arrest by shooting at officers when they approached?
onenote
Feb 2013
#180
"There are other questions that legitimately should be asked about the LAPD."
nobodyspecial
Feb 2013
#186