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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
34. Classic ad hominem argument
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:56 PM
Feb 2013

Premise one: Greenwald said some favorable things about Ron Paul. (Calling him an "acolyte" goes too far but I think that my more careful phrasing would be accurate.)

Premise two: We don't like Ron Paul. (Most DUers would agree with a few of Ron Paul's votes in Congress, but would oppose many more than they would support, so this is accurate.)

Conclusion: Greenwald's criticisms of Obama need not be considered on their merits. Instead, everything he says may be ignored.

The argument is logically invalid in that the conclusion does not follow from the premises.

If you augment the premises by pointing out that Greenwald once wrote some things about immigration that now, several years later, he considers to have been mistaken, then... it's still an ad hominem argument and it's still logically invalid.

Title: ProSense Feb 2013 #1
some Obama fans don't like Glenn Greenwald Enrique Feb 2013 #2
Breaking: Greenwald doesn't like Obama or his supporters. ProSense Feb 2013 #5
Or, it's OK if MyPresident does it MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #3
Exactly right. We who accept all done by a president are the hypocrites. madfloridian Feb 2013 #13
Flipside of the same rotten coin whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #4
Except that Greenwald ignores the difference between the geek tragedy Feb 2013 #6
Bush and his defenders constantly used the AUMF as their justification Enrique Feb 2013 #7
No, they actually cited the "inherent authority of the President" as geek tragedy Feb 2013 #9
The good ol' days are not all dead and gone kenny blankenship Feb 2013 #8
Flashback. More Greenwald writing about Bush in 2006... SidDithers Feb 2013 #10
He was saying it was hard to accept betrayal by one's president. madfloridian Feb 2013 #12
... Enrique Feb 2013 #17
amazing isn't it? arely staircase Feb 2013 #19
Poor Glenn CitizenPatriot Feb 2013 #22
Good find! nt Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #11
From the preface of Greenwald's 2006 book about the Patriot Act. madfloridian Feb 2013 #14
Wonder if Greenwald considers ProSense Feb 2013 #15
Copyright is copyright. Four paragraphs is fair use, not more. nt msanthrope Feb 2013 #21
Well, then, let's look at it this way. I have the book open in front of me... madfloridian Feb 2013 #23
That would no longer be fair use, and would violate the TOS ---- msanthrope Feb 2013 #24
So report me, misanthrope. madfloridian Feb 2013 #25
Tell on you? Aw...hells no! I want you to expand upon your msanthrope Feb 2013 #26
Oh my. bvar22 Feb 2013 #16
"...the president was entitled to have his national security judgment deferred to.. arely staircase Feb 2013 #18
Glenn Greenwald, being racist in 2005.... msanthrope Feb 2013 #20
"The parade of evils caused by illegal immigration is widely known" ProSense Feb 2013 #28
That would get him banned off of DU, but this is an acceptable source? msanthrope Feb 2013 #31
Please don't upset the Greenwald cheerleaders Summer Hathaway Feb 2013 #30
The cheerleaders dismiss, but the rest of DU doesn't. Glenn is a Ron Paul acolyte, msanthrope Feb 2013 #33
Classic ad hominem argument Jim Lane Feb 2013 #34
A racist's viewpoints on this President need not be considered. What Greenwald msanthrope Feb 2013 #36
Try clicking the link pottedplant Jun 2016 #37
That was no apology. True, it may have been before he learned to hide it better. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #39
Ok so his marriage is a sham as well pottedplant Jun 2016 #41
+ 1,000,000,000,000 eom MohRokTah Jun 2016 #40
Cancel. gulliver Feb 2013 #27
Why can't I get anyone to tell me HOW MANY DEAD BODIES is too high a price to pay for being WRONG? patrice Feb 2013 #29
Please cite Glenn Greenwald pottedplant Jun 2016 #38
now WE give OBAMA a pass upi402 Feb 2013 #32
Observing that there is risk is not slamming. Pretending there isn't risk is slamming patrice Feb 2013 #35
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