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laundry_queen

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19. LOL

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:26 PM

Feb 2013

Did you know in 11 states you are more likely to die by gun than by motor vehicle accident? And by 2015, at the rate of increase of gun deaths, that will include the entire United States?

LOL slip and fall. Statistics and probability indeed.

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Suspect in Botched Shooting Bought Gun Legally Despite Mental Illness [View all] FarCenter Feb 2013 OP

The story has a positive outcome. Ms. Boland will either be incarcerated or committed. slackmaster Feb 2013 #1

Unfortunately, they don't all end like that -- and the faculty members are lucky she didn't have NRA Hoyt Feb 2013 #3

The only way we will have a positive outcome will be if the laws are changed Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #4

People who are committed because they are not mentally competent to stand trial do get treatment slackmaster Feb 2013 #5

Both my parents worked in the mental health field, don't tell me I am misinformed. Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #9

There you go again with the "should" clause slackmaster Feb 2013 #10

Things don't change unless people suggest they should change Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #14

What about a private sale? Glassunion Feb 2013 #12

Federal law is very clear on that. It's illegal for "any person" to transfer a firearm to... slackmaster Feb 2013 #15

But today as it stands there is no solution. Glassunion Feb 2013 #16

Due process...I think we should keep it... pipoman Feb 2013 #2

The Japanese model of extensive interviews and background checks.... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #6

A lot of DUers are enamored of the power of Japanese police to stop and question anyone at any time slackmaster Feb 2013 #7

Yeah. It's not like we can do the one and not the other.... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #8

Because we know the police would never abuse that power. hack89 Feb 2013 #11

The greatest threat to my civil liberties is living amid a sea of guns.... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #13

Actually, unless you are very old or very young the greatest threat to your civil liberties... slackmaster Feb 2013 #17

LOL laundry_queen Feb 2013 #19

Cite? slackmaster Feb 2013 #21

Documentary: Crossfire laundry_queen Feb 2013 #29

Forgot: Linky laundry_queen Feb 2013 #32

Here's a link to the CDC's Leading Causes of Death reports slackmaster Feb 2013 #40

you are being disingenuous laundry_queen Feb 2013 #41

I have presented factual information here slackmaster Feb 2013 #42

Not really. You cherry picked and left stuff out. But that's okay. Carry on. nt laundry_queen Feb 2013 #48

I've shown you the way to water. It's free. Drink it if you are so inclined. slackmaster Feb 2013 #50

1.) You miss (or avoid) my point.... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #20

The CDC has plenty of good stats. Roll your own query at WISQARS, then spin the results as you wish. slackmaster Feb 2013 #22

care to address 1.) ???? Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #23

Paging Benjamin Franklin... slackmaster Feb 2013 #24

So I'll walk through metal detectors, allow myself and possessions to be searched etc etc.... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #26

That's a false dilemma slackmaster Feb 2013 #28

Nope. Daily reality. And the more guns out there, the worse it will get. Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #31

You obviously don't have a good grasp of statistics and probability either Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #25

That's a poor analysis and misses the point of my previous response slackmaster Feb 2013 #27

You only think it is a poor analysis because it does not back up your talking point Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #33

Tell that to all the gun cultists that tote to be prepared, yet do not carry a defibrillator or jaws Hoyt Feb 2013 #38

Only if you give the police that power. nt hack89 Feb 2013 #36

Never asked for metal detectors and guards at my son's HS.... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #37

Columbine had metal detectors and guards Recursion Feb 2013 #44

A woman with a public history of mental illness had Historic NY Feb 2013 #18

Some states treat an accepted defense based on mental illness the same as a committment, HereSince1628 Feb 2013 #30

Ah, it was a state level issue. Lone_Star_Dem Feb 2013 #47

We need a non-arbitrary process... Deep13 Feb 2013 #34

I would have thought anyone who threatened to assassinate a president would be in NCIS Lone_Star_Dem Feb 2013 #35

A person who did that would have to have been convicted for it, or committed to a mental... slackmaster Feb 2013 #39

She plead not guilty by reason of mental incompetence. Lone_Star_Dem Feb 2013 #43

That is definitely not the same thing as being adjudicated as mentally incompetent slackmaster Feb 2013 #45

She was also committed to a mental institution by a federal judge. Lone_Star_Dem Feb 2013 #46

That's not completely true. The FBI also contributes a prohibited list to the NICS HereSince1628 Feb 2013 #49