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cbrer

(1,831 posts) Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:45 AM Feb 2013

Chris Dorner: Anyone else see irony between statements [View all]

Of the uselessness of guns in the hands of citizens against a military or police department equipped with modern weapons and sensors, and the mobilization of resources against one armed man?

If one multiplies that effect by 10 million, it may illustrate part of the philosophy of armed citizens. Not coming down on one side or the other. Certainly not claiming that Mr. Dorner isn't (or is) a nut case. Just an alternate perspective to what seems to be a pervasive attitude here.

*Edited to correct spelling*

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Chris Dorner: Anyone else see irony between statements [View all] cbrer Feb 2013 OP

Just a heads up--It's Dorner. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #1

I've also seen an odd overlap between the "we need guns to protect ourselves from tyranical gov't" Electric Monk Feb 2013 #2

Yeah, it's definitely got me reviewing my notes on cognitive dissonance, that's for sure. - n/t coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #7

To put it into a little bit of perspective, I guess. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #8

Not sure what you are trying to offer here Vinnie From Indy Feb 2013 #3

Perspective & alternate viewpoint. nt cbrer Feb 2013 #5

the guy is in hiding JI7 Feb 2013 #4

And? nt cbrer Feb 2013 #6

he is in hiding because he wont be able to take on the cops JI7 Feb 2013 #10

So? tama Feb 2013 #12

LAPD is very incompetent, it's not just because of this guy JI7 Feb 2013 #13

I agree that's not a very good argument in terms of gun laws tama Feb 2013 #14

Not just incompent, but corrupt as well MrScorpio Feb 2013 #32

Previous threads cbrer Feb 2013 #15

no it doesn't, the guy is in hiding, he isn't any closer to being a threat to govt JI7 Feb 2013 #17

I'm not ascribing motives or goals cbrer Feb 2013 #18

it's been done with Bin Laden JI7 Feb 2013 #21

Monopoly of Violence tama Feb 2013 #19

Paradoxically, it's easier for one person to be more of a threat. randome Feb 2013 #28

Not really ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #9

Under the conditions you're presupposing cbrer Feb 2013 #16

Completley valid observation Heimer Feb 2013 #22

Depends On What Type Of Government... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #30

No dogman Feb 2013 #11

Neither Koresh (Waco) nor Weaver (Ruby Ridge) were conducting operations against the government. LAGC Feb 2013 #23

Not going to weight in on gun control, but excellent post (cont) Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #20

Not every gun totin' yahoo is as well armed or as capable as this guy seems to be. baldguy Feb 2013 #24

Love your tag line cbrer Feb 2013 #25

I'd think this would be more of a "See why we need drones!" event JVS Feb 2013 #26

Yup! But don't accuse me cbrer Feb 2013 #27

What is perverse Cosmocat Feb 2013 #29

If the philosophy of the armed citizens is to run around terrorziing and killing jmg257 Feb 2013 #31