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Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts) Thu Feb 7, 2013, 11:26 PM Feb 2013

Clearly, reestablishing Magna Carta is an unrealistic Left Wing goal.... [View all]

People who walk around muttering "jury of peers" and "due process" are just NOT to be taken seriously. If we want to realistically challenge the "Divine Right of Kings", we on the Left are going to have to set our sights a tad lower.

Myself, I think I could live with a ban on Drawing and Quartering. Surely simple beheading is more merciful and there's always Burning at the Stake for more serious cases. There are some progressive states that want to introduce a new concept called Trial by Ordeal, but I just don't think that Red States are ready for that yet.

Remember: Small incremental improvements always win the day over dangerous, radical change.

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Clearly, reestablishing Magna Carta is an unrealistic Left Wing goal.... [View all] Junkdrawer Feb 2013 OP

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #1

Pffft. Pre - 9/11 thinking. progressoid Feb 2013 #2

"Jury of your peers" was because the King was letting commoners try nobles Recursion Feb 2013 #3

Good reason to get rid of the whole concept of constraint on the power of the executive, right? MNBrewer Feb 2013 #6

The barons were the original teabaggers Recursion Feb 2013 #7

Indeed, Absolute Monarchy IS to be defended MNBrewer Feb 2013 #9

He was never an absolute monarch like in France Recursion Feb 2013 #12

That makes it all better MNBrewer Feb 2013 #13

The Right to a Jury of One's Peers Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #27

It's the word "peers" we got rid of Recursion Feb 2013 #32

The text of the Magna Carta emphasizes "freeman" and seems to use the word peer... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #33

It's not peers in the sense of "peers of the realm" Recursion Feb 2013 #35

whooo...zlow down there sport Dragonfli Feb 2013 #4

Voting only Democratic is no assurance of "liberal cred" MNBrewer Feb 2013 #10

No you slow down. You think that voting Democratic assures liberal what? rhett o rick Feb 2013 #15

Too subtle for this crowd. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #17

WHOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSHHHHH! kath Feb 2013 #20

Point taken. Progress is not to be measured from where we are... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #25

Why elect academic scholar of Constitution? tama Feb 2013 #29

Don't forget keel-hauling. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #5

Keels hadn't been invented yet Recursion Feb 2013 #8

When were they invented?? MNBrewer Feb 2013 #11

They come with the lateen Recursion Feb 2013 #14

You learn something every day. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #22

From his posts you really do. nt Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #26

Let's be international and bring in necklacing. nt OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #16

I had to look that up. I wish I hadn't now. Amimnoch Feb 2013 #28

Small incremental improvements Herlong Feb 2013 #18

This is entirely unrelated Herlong Feb 2013 #19

K&R. Wonderful. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #21

Excellent post. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #24

"Don't even use the word free if you don't have an inalienable right to a trial..." Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #30

epic thread Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #23

Here in the country that gave the world Magna Carta...... T_i_B Feb 2013 #31

We are facing a new type of existential threat, an enemy unlike any foe before... Octafish Feb 2013 #34

^ Wilms Feb 2013 #36