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JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
27. eridani
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 10:23 AM
Feb 2013

I have a different take - hope I'm supporting you on this . . .


If you start playing "this person who makes LESS get this and that person gets THAT" - it starts to turn into a TANF/SNAP type of program.

To me - the beauty of SS is that EVERYONE pays in - and EVERYONE 'gets' and because of this it can never have that snotty Reagan quip about 'Welfare Queens' taking something from someone else.


Now - I am a high earner - I have NO PROBLEM paying in more - and I really truly believe that this MUST happen. It simply must. Turning 40 next week - and my mom is a Boomer. We are on the verge of a huge implosion called Aging Baby Boomers and I'll be damned if a SINGLE one of them is going to go hungry, cold, or without medical care. It's bullshit. So the end of the SS tax holiday was a good thing - but we need to do more.


Now - I got my first big paycheck at 8 years old for a few Kodak advertising campaigns. Basically - I've been paying in for 32 years. Whether I 'need' it or not - I've paid in. I want it there when I'm older. Who knows - maybe I'll use it each year to support progressive/liberal PACS? But I paid in - I want it back. If it means I have to pay more to shore it up - so be it.


And having a mom who turned sixty five in November, but only makes $40K a year (stepped down from a Regional position to slow down a bit) - I'd like to know how the newbie intends to address her. My dad died in August 2011 - based on her family history she'll live to be into her 90's. Perhaps the newbie thinks the million dollars or so my parents saved all of those years should be run through for ALL of her basic needs and medical and then he/she will put her on the cat food commission in 15 years? Nope - don't think so.


The boomers had the rug pulled out from under them circa 1980. The rules changed. They just found this out about 5 years ago. I'll be damned if I throw any single one of them under the bus. They are ALL counting on that money in some way, shape, or form or another. My mom intends to use it for supplemental medical (Medicare does a shit job on prescriptions and such).

Pretty simple really... demwing Feb 2013 #1
You got it. Republicans do not do responsibility. Berlum Feb 2013 #2
Agreed. MyshkinCommaPrince Feb 2013 #31
SS and Medicare are tough av8r1998 Feb 2013 #3
"Get it done, guys" TransitJohn Feb 2013 #4
no av8r1998 Feb 2013 #5
also av8r1998 Feb 2013 #6
For fuck's sake at least try to get the numbers right eridani Feb 2013 #7
LOL av8r1998 Feb 2013 #11
Just to be clear av8r1998 Feb 2013 #16
It doesn't matter whether they need it or not--they PAID INTO IT eridani Feb 2013 #8
Exactly av8r1998 Feb 2013 #12
You can't collect if you are working if you are making that much eridani Feb 2013 #14
And if he's still working, he's still paying FICA on the first $113K n/t eridani Feb 2013 #15
Yes av8r1998 Feb 2013 #17
That's not how it works. You work, and you pay FICA on income up to $113K eridani Feb 2013 #19
No, he isn't av8r1998 Feb 2013 #20
I don't get it. You first complained that he shouldn't be getting the yearly limit payout eridani Feb 2013 #22
Back at you soon... av8r1998 Feb 2013 #24
eridani JustAnotherGen Feb 2013 #27
Agreed 100%. Boomers had FICA doubled in 1983 to prepay our own retirement plus eridani Feb 2013 #35
My thoughts.. av8r1998 Feb 2013 #30
If these folks paid into SS they should be allowed to use it newfie11 Feb 2013 #9
"Their time to use it" av8r1998 Feb 2013 #13
I made nowhere near this but I Am on SS newfie11 Feb 2013 #32
You can't have it both ways av8r1998 Feb 2013 #33
I agree BUT at the same time we need to get even more progressive with our tax CTyankee Feb 2013 #18
You're right but.... av8r1998 Feb 2013 #23
Making people wait longer to collect benefits is already somewhat in place now... CTyankee Feb 2013 #26
1983 and 1993 changes to SS reteachinwi Feb 2013 #29
I graduated from college with a degree in accounting 20 years ago av8r1998 Feb 2013 #34
"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, ..." baldguy Feb 2013 #10
I double dog DARE Joe Scarborough to look straight into the camera and say to CTyankee Feb 2013 #21
they KNOW that people are very fond of ss & medicare. they are political cockroaches. spanone Feb 2013 #25
Because they want Democrats to do the lifting, take the blame, and they want to benefit TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #28
And it is looking like that might happen newfie11 Feb 2013 #36
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