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Starboard Tack

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50. Then why are you blaming drug users for what gun users do?

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 04:49 PM

Jan 2013

Is it because some drugs are illegal? If some guns were illegal, would you then start to blame gun users for drug overdoses?

You say "violence is a complex phenomenon". Do you think guns make it more, or less, complex? And whatever your answer to that is, what relevance does it have in terms of reducing gun violence?

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Teenager Who Performed At Obama’s Inauguration Ceremony Is Victim of Gun Violence [View all] cynatnite Jan 2013 OP

Boy, does this really suck...knr joeybee12 Jan 2013 #1

It just never ends. Does it. This fucked up vicious cycle I mean. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #2

Early release because of testing. FUCK testing, take care of the children! NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #3

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #8

I missed that part of the report--could you please indicate where that information is. niyad Jan 2013 #13

saw it on WGN morning news datasuspect Jan 2013 #14

as we see regularly (and, most recently at sandy hook) what is given in a hurried "news" report niyad Jan 2013 #19

keep in mind datasuspect Jan 2013 #20

Not sure why the above post was hidden... JimDandy Feb 2013 #63

That's Dpm12 Jan 2013 #4

I hope all those gang enabling drug users are happy too. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #5

and the cops too datasuspect Jan 2013 #9

As well as all the gang enabling drug prohibitionists Fumesucker Jan 2013 #16

Not to mention all those gang enabling gun dealers. baldguy Jan 2013 #21

We can blame many things - violence is a complex phenomena. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #23

And without access to guns, what are they going to do? baldguy Jan 2013 #25

We should ban heroin and cocaine to make it super safer. hack89 Jan 2013 #28

Right, if we can't be 100% successful ending a social evil that means we can't do anything about it. baldguy Jan 2013 #37

I have no problem preventing criminals from acquiring guns hack89 Jan 2013 #41

I imagine there are more reasons on heaven and earth Horatio that tempt people LanternWaste Jan 2013 #39

Just pointing out that criminals will always have guns hack89 Jan 2013 #42

Then why are you blaming drug users for what gun users do? Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #50

Why do drug gangs exist other than to sell drugs to drug users? hack89 Jan 2013 #51

OK, looks like you've got it. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #59

Because Rule #1 of the gun worshipers handbook says: "Guns are never to blame." baldguy Jan 2013 #53

I think there is a big difference between gun ownership and gun worship. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #60

you're going to hear how Chicago has strong gun control any minute now bettyellen Jan 2013 #7

not gun control - GUN BAN datasuspect Jan 2013 #10

Then this event couldn't have happened. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #11

gang affiliated or not datasuspect Jan 2013 #12

Actually, no, we don't love those calls... Flyboy_451 Jan 2013 #27

Cool. Do you get to shoot people? Robb Jan 2013 #30

Do i get to shoot people?? Flyboy_451 Jan 2013 #32

Are we supposed to hate cops on this board??? zappaman Jan 2013 #33

Your post guardian Jan 2013 #52

I think you jumped the shark, Robb derby378 Jan 2013 #54

Seriously, it is not you. Rex Jan 2013 #58

I understand the frustration and even some of the anger... Flyboy_451 Jan 2013 #61

CPS school closures will ensure there's more of this datasuspect Jan 2013 #6

I'd like right wingers to explain HOW they could've fired back in this ambush shooting. alp227 Jan 2013 #15

Words fail..... Taverner Jan 2013 #17

Damn. Words fail me. Initech Jan 2013 #18

Dick Durbin brought this up in the Senate hearing today Enrique Jan 2013 #22

Terrible. :'( RIP ecstatic Jan 2013 #24

sad. Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #26

This made more news than the other 50 killings in Chicago in January. It's all sad. mucifer Jan 2013 #29

Please no libodem Jan 2013 #31

Dear Rahm libodem Jan 2013 #34

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that this is a "message" sent by the Reich wing to the avg American harrose Jan 2013 #35

Tragic, but you post is ridiculous. zappaman Jan 2013 #36

I'm not saying it definitely is so... harrose Jan 2013 #38

Yes I do zappaman Jan 2013 #40

Why do you think it's completely out of the realm of possibility? harrose Jan 2013 #46

Possible...but about as likely as aliens or the Illuminati. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #47

My, aren't you concerned. zappaman Jan 2013 #48

Yes, it is COMPLETELY OUT OF THE REALM that the "Reich wing" is sending a message. Separation Jan 2013 #45

7x that many Chicagoans were killed on Saturday. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2013 #56

ATF needs a 50 agent task force to stop the alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #43

Exactly, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2013 #49

Yeah, that's one of the dirty secrets no one wants to address... Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #55

+++++ What a great post marions ghost Jan 2013 #62

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2013 #44

. Rex Jan 2013 #57