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In reply to the discussion: "This Is What a Gun Control March on Washington Looks Like" [View all]BainsBane
(53,032 posts)No one is confiscating your guns. That is right wing paranoia. There are concrete proposals the President has announced. THAT is what is up for discussion. That people write things on a site is really irrelevant. I understand you like to argue in extremes, but it's pointless. I'm not interested in debating what someone else on DU writes. There are real policy positions proposed and actual legislation. My position is in support of that legislation. If you insist on arguing something else, you will need to do it with someone else.
My point in saying I might personally like to see a more comprehensive ban was that the AWB is an attempt to strike a compromise between the rights of gun owners and an effort to get the most dangerous weapons off the street. But it's increasingly clear that people like you aren't interested in compromise. The AWB was a no go after Sandyhook, but the responses of the NRA and zealots like you have pushed more and more Americans into supporting it. You people are the best proponents for gun control out there. The more unreasonable you are, the fewer people care about what you want.
"Most children do not die from stray gang bullets." What racist nonsense. Is it really necessary that every single sentence you write reek of white male privilege? Most people are harmed by guns owned from someone inside their own home. You and every other gun owner are 7x more likely to see that gun used on yourself or a member of your household than against an intruder.
I mentioned the background checks because that is among the changes being proposed. Again, there are specific changes being proposed. Discussing anything else is pointless. I live in a state where hunting is part of its culture. My brother-in-law is a Republican who hunts regularly, as does the entire side of that family. He also supports an assault weapons ban. If I am ever able to buy a cabin near the North Shore of Lake Superior, I would also have a shotgun in case I need to scare away wolves and bears. I don't have a problem with people owning guns for hunting and self defense. My problem is with widespread gun proliferation and the power the gun lobby wields over politics, including infringing on the First Amendment.
You are the one who insisted you needed assault weapons as part of forming some citizen military. If you did not mean forming a militia on your own, your very excuse for having the weapons is moot. You just nullified your own argument.
Okay, so you maintain some hunters need AW with extended magazines. Why? Do they get off on shooting a deer past the point where it's edible? Are they too lazy to bother reaching in their bag to reload? Do they have to be airlifted onto their hunting spot because they can't bear to walk either? In Minnesota, hunters eat their kill. They don't riddle them with bullets past the point of recognition. Some even hunt with--God forbid--bows and arrows. I didn't realize the goal was to protect budding serial killers who like to see animals mutilated for kicks rather than assuring the Second Amendment rights of hunters.
I find it ironic that you lecture me about "researching" the capacity of certain weapons when you can't be bothered to read news coverage of the policy positions you are debating.
I did not accuse you of having blood on your hands. No where.
I'm not sure why you refuse to stick to actual proposals. Whether it's because you prefer to create a strawman argument, you can't be bothered to read a newspaper, or your paranoia keeps you from understanding reality. At any rate, it does you no good. You're obviously extremely agitated over something that does not exist as actual proposed legislation or Democratic Party policy position. Stop watching Fox and listening to Rush and start reading a legitimate news source. It will do you worlds of good.
If your real concern is only maintaining Second Amendment rights, you have nothing to fear from anything the President has put forward. What some DUers in their pajamas post online about repealing the Second Amendment amounts to squat. There is nothing more difficult than changing the constitution. So calm yourself down.