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babylonsister

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Sat Jan 26, 2013, 08:33 AM Jan 2013

"I知 not anti-gun, I知 pro-kindergartner" [View all]

12 rational responses to irrational gun arguments
With the gun control debate hitting a fever pitch, a handy how-to guide for dealing with gun rights extremists
By Richard (RJ) Eskow, Alternet

This article originally appeared on AlterNet.

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Now that President Obama has made his initial gun control proposals, the crazy’s being ratcheted up to a new level. Rational Americans in all walks of life will be confronted with these kinds of arguments. We’re going to need a playbook. Here are 12 responses you can use when you’re confronted with some of the standard illogical, irrational and emotionally overheated statements that gun extremists use.

1. I’m not anti-gun, I’m pro-kindergartner.

After Newtown, what person in his right mind thinks it’s irrational to propose some common-sense measures to prevent similar tragedies in the future?


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3. If dead children are a “distraction,” what subjects are important enough to be worthy of your attention?

As Media Matters reports, an increasing number of gun-extremist righties have suggested that attempts to prevent more deaths, including the deaths of young people at Newtown, Aurora, Columbine and elsewhere, are really just a “distraction” from more important matters.

Try convincing the parents of dead kids that their personal tragedies aren’t important. And if dead kindergartners don’t deserve your attention, what does?


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http://www.salon.com/2013/01/25/12_rational_responses_to_irrational_gun_arguments/
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conservative writers, ... are calling the unfolding gun debate a "distraction" and a "red herring" Kolesar Jan 2013 #1
With due respect, I think that sounds silly. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #2
No, it's a good sound bite. There are obviously a lot of Americans who are willing to let .... Scuba Jan 2013 #4
It's a GREAT sound bite. Squinch Jan 2013 #6
I totally disagree. Anyone who claims that doesn't understand the minds of gun owners.... Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #12
"Anyone who claims that doesn't understand the minds of gun owners...." Scuba Jan 2013 #15
Neither do you. My opinion is....it's a bad slogan that wouldn't convince anyone Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #16
What do you suggest? Lordquinton Jan 2013 #21
"I'm not anti-gun. I'm pro-reasonable gun control" Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #22
"Pro-Regulation" that's a good, and all around one as well Lordquinton Jan 2013 #25
Sorry, gun culture's ownership, accumulation of, promotion of guns is significantly responsible . Hoyt Jan 2013 #27
Just read the linked article... FarPoint Jan 2013 #5
"We aren't anti-choice. We are pro-life!" Same slogan. It doesn't convince anyone but the base who Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #13
Absolutely. Kids > Fetish. nt onehandle Jan 2013 #3
Is anybody proposing any "gun control" we haven't had, more or less, at some time in the past? AlbertCat Jan 2013 #7
Go ahead. These attempts to reframe the gun debate are why the AWB will fail. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #8
The article fails at the first "point" Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #9
Here's the list of proposals. If some of these are enacted, babylonsister Jan 2013 #11
Okay! Let's me look them over! Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #14
They can't drop the emotion because without it rational logic fails. galileoreloaded Jan 2013 #20
Ah yes. The mr. Spock argument Scootaloo Jan 2013 #28
You can say that again! Pholus Jan 2013 #29
Your grasp of galileoreloaded Jan 2013 #30
Bingo. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #17
And yet, amazingly, you have no clue what "side" I am on in this debate Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #23
Can't say I gave that any thought, actually. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #24
I'm anti-stupid and that's what the NRA is Cha Jan 2013 #10
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #18
I am anti-bullshit. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #19
Sadly we wouldn't be having this debate if... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #26
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