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In reply to the discussion: To those bemoaning the presence of the divine in the inauguration [View all]NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)93. The President is allowed to publicly recognize his faith.
Where ever and whenever he would like. In no way did he interfere with the separation of church and state today.
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To those bemoaning the presence of the divine in the inauguration [View all]
nadinbrzezinski
Jan 2013
OP
Actually ceremonies are EXACTLY the place many people choose to pick their battles!
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#66
To me, one counter point to all of the theology is found in Blanco's poem, because that is what
patrice
Jan 2013
#188
If not now when? I have every right to protest religion in goverment whenever....
Walk away
Jan 2013
#228
Yes because atheists and other nonbelievers should just shut up on a discussion board doncha know?
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#70
I was countering the declaration in the OP that informed me that I am my own worst enemy.
djean111
Jan 2013
#116
I am with you on the you are your own "worst enemy" part of the op. It was wrong.
NCTraveler
Jan 2013
#120
Growing up non-Christian in the US makes identification of your worst enemies pretty simple
Major Nikon
Jan 2013
#124
What's with the hostility toward people having a belief in a higher being?
Honeycombe8
Jan 2013
#339
I'll get back to you after I see if atheists have ever inflicted wars or crusades or inquisitions
djean111
Jan 2013
#383
How dare anyone say anything about the insertion of religion into what should be a secular ceremony?
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#14
And ON A DISCUSSION board no less!1!! How DARE anyone make a critique about the ceremony?!
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#37
It's Obama's ceremony. He believes in a higher being. R-e-s-p-e-c-t. Period. nt
Honeycombe8
Jan 2013
#340
It was a few comments on a discussion board, that's what we do here, we discuss things
Fumesucker
Jan 2013
#237
In the wake of the first bombs falling on Afghanistan in November 2001, I was heartened
coalition_unwilling
Jan 2013
#215
Disappointed to see I consider christofascists and rabid atheists as essentially the same?
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#76
Oh, and please direct me to your prior posts where you complained about the benedictions in
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#77
stupid, there are/were laws preventing gays, women, blacks etc from getting rights
JI7
Jan 2013
#235
Yes, there are still laws out there preventing atheists from holding office
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#255
that article said the ATheist will take office regardless of the bigoted state laws
JI7
Jan 2013
#268
Post #235, you asked "are there laws which ban an atheist from holding office ?"
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#275
this started off because of comparisons to blacks, gays, women being denied rights
JI7
Jan 2013
#279
This link right here is 50 times more powerful than all of the emotional froth
Number23
Jan 2013
#289
I believe there's links to Wiki as well. I simply pulled up the first one that caught my eye that
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#291
Post #235, you asked "are there laws which ban an atheist from holding office ?"
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#277
I will wait for Jeff to explain his post. I simply was addressing the goalpost moving nt
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#295
there was no moving of the goalpost since the original point still stands and the arguments are
JI7
Jan 2013
#307
so you don't think same sex marriage is a right ? what does it matter if/when it was included
JI7
Jan 2013
#304
i'm not ignoring any right, you aren't forced to pray at the inauguration , you don't have to take
JI7
Jan 2013
#341
I find it highly ironic that the main argument for religion in the inauguration
forestpath
Jan 2013
#26
I didn't listen to them closely, but I thought they seemed pretty neutral, anyway, I thought similar,
RKP5637
Jan 2013
#166
I quit listening to fairy tales long ago so will never believe in a sky daddy but
libtodeath
Jan 2013
#54
There's more than one variety of delicate flower out there, the meare presence of different flowers
patrice
Jan 2013
#71
Times change, people evolve, and a shout-out to ignorance is no longer needed or appropriate
Demo_Chris
Jan 2013
#75
... and disrespect will earn you nothing but association with others who are disrespectful too. &
patrice
Jan 2013
#81
Should I also pretend Palin is not ignorant, or is that a truth it is okay to say?
Demo_Chris
Jan 2013
#142
Is Palin at the inauguration today? Weren't you referring to thousands of people who like to pray
patrice
Jan 2013
#180
Tradition. Good word, that summed up my feelings in one word. I let the religious
RKP5637
Jan 2013
#83
False equivalency: Blacks and gays have no choice in the matter, they are born that way
Fumesucker
Jan 2013
#98
While DUers don't like to admit it, telling atheists to shut up is more common than you'd think
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#190
thanks for tacitly conceding the validity of my observations and accompanying remarks
stupidicus
Jan 2013
#300
"in its entire history it has never, ever been free of the beliefs you so loathe"?
greyl
Jan 2013
#361
So we should not raise a voice in protest at the over-the-top religious crap because Amerika has
People b4 profits
Jan 2013
#130
Congratulations Nadine, you have the most popular divisive thread of this inaugural afternoon
Fumesucker
Jan 2013
#146
In post 51, Nadin tells us that ceremonies are NOT the place to pick a battle. At least now atheists
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#185
Perhaps when you manage to figure out that your first sentence is completely contradictory
jeff47
Jan 2013
#262
I posted the link because of the five criteria that is used in academic circles to define
Number23
Jan 2013
#387
That's your opinion which you have not supported with anything other than subterfuge
Major Nikon
Jan 2013
#392
Physical OR cultural traits. Secularism is a cultural trait. Definition applies.
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2013
#236
Being a minority is not only about being a small member or group of a population
Number23
Jan 2013
#221
You started the argument. My first entry was to ask you were atheists minorities
Number23
Jan 2013
#310
Too bad cooler heads couldn't have prevailed in the beginning because I'm pretty much done now
Number23
Jan 2013
#320
That's a lot of adverbs on adjectives, subject changes, and condescension you're gonna get.
Festivito
Jan 2013
#162
To those lamely justifying turning the inauguration into a fucking church service
longship
Jan 2013
#182
Just a note of fact: The Oath orginally did not contain "SO HELP ME GOD" that was an add on by
diabeticman
Jan 2013
#200
Same sort of logic used to justify the right wing's stance on gay marriage, etc.
RedCappedBandit
Jan 2013
#220
Really. Atheists are treated to some of the shittiest push back, even on DU. This is a discussion bd
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#259
Nobody's been told they're idiots for their beliefs, except atheists who've expressed an OPINION
riderinthestorm
Jan 2013
#386
Well, what would you do if you were atheist and felt excluded and marginalized?
Evoman
Jan 2013
#356
If a public school forced students to recite the Lords Prayer, knock yourself out.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2013
#368
"the presence of the divine in the inauguration" presumes that religious activities are
ladjf
Jan 2013
#354
We have separation of state because we have freedom of religion. They go hand in hand.
appleannie1
Jan 2013
#382
Here we are again, the majority telling the minority to fuck off, you can't change it anyway.
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2013
#394
Ah, but the "divine" probably wasn't present and maybe doesn't even exist.
redgreenandblue
Jan 2013
#397