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UnrepentantLiberal

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Sun Jan 20, 2013, 04:00 AM Jan 2013

The right way to stop gun violence [View all]

By Stephen Henderson
The Detroit Free Press
Jan 20, 2013

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"A study of ATF gun trafficking cases found that the largest conduits of gun trafficking involved illegal straw purchases (someone buying the gun for someone who can't) and corrupt licensed gun dealers evading gun sales laws," Webster told me last week.

"A separate ATF study found that over half of guns recovered from criminals and crime scenes were traced to 1% of licensed dealers. I've conducted several studies demonstrating that when there is greater regulation and oversight of gun dealers, and when they are vulnerable to civil and criminal penalties if they do not obey gun sales laws, far fewer guns flow into the illicit gun market where criminals obtain their guns."

The constitution permits legislation that revokes an individual's freedom for life after the commission of a third serious crime. Logically, it should also permit the stiffest possible penalties for gun shops caught evading safeguards intended to keep guns from criminals.

And gun owners could be held more responsible, too. If I give a car to someone who's not licensed to drive and they kill someone with it, I could be held liable. If a legal gun owner sells a firearm to someone who shouldn't have it, liability (certainly civil, maybe even criminal) ought to attach in that context, as well.

More: http://www.freep.com/article/20130120/COL33/301200174/Stephen-Henderson-The-right-way-to-stop-gun-violence

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The right way to stop gun violence [View all] UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 OP
Nah, arm large black men..Muslims with long beards, Sieks, Openly Gay men with AR-15s to "educate" uponit7771 Jan 2013 #1
Does framing gun deaths as racist and sexist as symptomatic of white male privilege HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #2
arm the homeless datasuspect Jan 2013 #23
I've never heard of a duty to check license and insurance before you sell a car privately Fumesucker Jan 2013 #3
you need a title to get the car registered. and you have to pay taxes. so... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #5
The buyer pays the taxes on the transfer in my state Fumesucker Jan 2013 #9
In my state, you have to have a highway patrol check to make sure your used car wasn't stolen. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #6
Who initiates the check, the seller or the buyer? Fumesucker Jan 2013 #8
The buyer. You need to do this before they'll issue or transfer tags. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #11
here the buyer has to get the VIN checked by cops before you register a car farminator3000 Jan 2013 #15
I still don't see any duty on the part of the car seller other than to provide clean title Fumesucker Jan 2013 #17
Then.. pipoman Jan 2013 #4
make all private sales go thru a dealer or store- as a witness or whatever farminator3000 Jan 2013 #7
NICS is already in place.. pipoman Jan 2013 #10
very good! i believe that is on the menu... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #13
As for the latter.. pipoman Jan 2013 #18
Sounds like a new lucrative revenue steam for gun dealers. baldguy Jan 2013 #12
I don't disagree.. pipoman Jan 2013 #14
the Free Press is great farminator3000 Jan 2013 #16
I read about Michigan's roll in the War if 1812 when you first posted it. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #20
Grand Central is the balls (of NY) farminator3000 Jan 2013 #22
Approximately 130,000 federally licensed firearms dealers in the U.S. Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #19
Yeah, we're talking buying and selling something UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #21
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