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tama

(9,137 posts)
33. 50 million?
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:46 AM
Jan 2013

Pashtun society and culture is not hierarchically centralized but decentralized network of largely self-reliant smaller communities united most importantly by ancient ethical code preserved by oral tradition called Pashtunwali, which is not limited to native speakers of Pashtun but has been adopted by other neighboring cultures. And they have been at least significant enough to succesfully resist both Soviet Union and US empires.

Our various coevolutionary relations and how they affect our population dynamics and forms of social organization is a complex multivariable issue, but any serious anthropological study will not lead to conclusion that global power hierarchy with bankers on top is the only option with any population number. Or that nation state hierarchies are any more natural form of social organization, or that decentralized bottom up network of communities could not be possible on global scale.

Locally sustainable communities can have very strict (unwritten) social norms, but there is great variety and also individual freedom of movement to stay in community and company that suits individual needs.

this strikes me as "noble savage" garbage cali Jan 2013 #1
By and large tama Jan 2013 #4
well, aside from the fact that your run on sentence is rather garbled, so what? cali Jan 2013 #7
Exactly what "slew of ills" do h-g societies host ... ananda Jan 2013 #42
If you ask top of hierarchy tama Jan 2013 #46
"noble savage" meets "indigo child" Quantess Jan 2013 #14
Human behaivior is about 98% predictable galileoreloaded Jan 2013 #49
Freedom and responsibility tama Jan 2013 #2
fuck those child labor laws. cali Jan 2013 #3
I get very well tama Jan 2013 #6
Can you answer my questions? Do you think we should get rid of all laws protecting children? cali Jan 2013 #8
I don't think you should ask loaded rhetorical questions and then demand an answer. Bucky Jan 2013 #11
oy, nothing rhetorical about the questions I posed. cali Jan 2013 #16
Yes tama Jan 2013 #13
That's not the way humans organize themselves once a certain population threshold is reached Fumesucker Jan 2013 #15
That's not a valid statement tama Jan 2013 #19
ironic. hunter/gatherer societies have hardly been an evolutionary success cali Jan 2013 #20
Hunter gatherer societies have a far longer track record than agrarian ones Fumesucker Jan 2013 #24
Of course not tama Jan 2013 #26
Your point is not in conflict with my own Fumesucker Jan 2013 #21
Which threshold? tama Jan 2013 #28
Evidently the threshold is below that of the population of every significant nation on the planet Fumesucker Jan 2013 #31
50 million? tama Jan 2013 #33
That population threshold being two people. N/T Chathamization Jan 2013 #40
thanks for answering. cali Jan 2013 #17
Talking about rape tama Jan 2013 #22
so where do you live? And what the fuck do YOU know about my way of life, dear? cali Jan 2013 #25
Not much tama Jan 2013 #30
lol. I live in the rural Northeast Kingdom of Vermont and cali Jan 2013 #41
Somehow tama Jan 2013 #44
And my brother shot me in the leg and head blueamy66 Jan 2013 #37
How about a happy medium? blueamy66 Jan 2013 #36
And I bet they keep their bow and arrows unloaded with trigger locks when not in use. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2013 #5
LOL tama Jan 2013 #12
hate to break this to you, but that's hierarchical. and you sound approving of it. cali Jan 2013 #18
Yeah, whatever tama Jan 2013 #23
So they respect their kids so much XemaSab Jan 2013 #9
! xchrom Jan 2013 #10
I don't think it's the protecting Shankapotomus Jan 2013 #27
It seems to me that each generation in our society Downwinder Jan 2013 #29
American apples v. Hunter Gatherer oranges demwing Jan 2013 #32
Fruitsalad tama Jan 2013 #34
"Better"? Jesus Christ. Brickbat Jan 2013 #35
Better, no. Different, yes Marrah_G Jan 2013 #38
I think r/K selection is facinating stuff, and Guns, Grems, and Steel was brilliant n/t galileoreloaded Jan 2013 #39
I agree with Cali, noble savage BS. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #43
I agree with the "noble savage" comments gollygee Jan 2013 #45
I kept waiting to hear the better part... Johonny Jan 2013 #47
It's impossible to say. Small, traditionally organized quasi-communal tribes are so different Zorra Jan 2013 #48
Thanks tama Jan 2013 #51
I would not call this "noble savage garbage" cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #50
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