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ProSense

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30. "That is not to say that Social Security should be off the table. "
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 08:03 PM
Jan 2013
That is not to say that Social Security should be off the table. There are reforms that are eminently sensible, if only the political will could be found to enact them. But reducing the COLA is not a sound idea now and may never be...the Bureau of Labor Statistics develop a statistically rigorous index to track inflation as experienced by retirees. A more informal index from the bureau that looks at the effects of inflation on the elderly shows that the COLA is too low, not too high, in part because of medical costs. But the number of households sampled is too small to be sure.

A rigorous index would settle the issue of whether the current COLA adjustments are high, low or about right. The fact that some policy makers are willing, even eager, to move ahead with changing the COLA without having developed a more reliable gauge only feeds the impression that they are trying to get away with an unjustified benefit cut.

In the meantime, there are other, well-researched reforms to Social Security that the administration and other policy makers could pursue. For instance, it is well understood that upper-income people live longer than the less affluent. The formula for determining Social Security benefits could be gradually and modestly adjusted to reflect those longer lives, while making the system more progressive and cutting spending. Another sensible reform would be to raise the level of wages currently subject to the Social Security payroll tax, so that it better reflects the income gains of top earners over the past several decades.

What's the point of this editorial?

No, Social Security should "should be off the table." Any discussion about strengthening the program should be separate from deficit negotiations and should never be mentions in terms of "cutting spending."

If they're going to mess with COLA, it should be result in an increase in benefits. They NYT is suggesting raising the age for high-income earners is a good proposal?

One thing everyone agrees with is that raising the cap makes sense.

No quotes from Obama saying,... Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #1
no, he doesn't say it like that Enrique Jan 2013 #2
We just assume the worst. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #3
The President has stated unequivocally the Social Security has NOTHING to do with The Deficit! bvar22 Jan 2013 #5
But that was a more liberal president. MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #22
America was a much more Liberal country way back then. bvar22 Jan 2013 #28
More than two-thirds of Americans don't want to cut Social Security MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #29
No, No...That can't be it. bvar22 Jan 2013 #33
Yes, they do. nt NashvilleLefty Jan 2013 #4
Paul Ryan says he wants to save Medicare and Social Security Enrique Jan 2013 #6
And, certainly, if a politician doesn't say it in so many words truebluegreen Jan 2013 #7
Social Security is *not* Federal Spending TheProgressive Jan 2013 #10
I believe I said that. truebluegreen Jan 2013 #11
'In reality it appears to be a quick and easy but massive cut to the Federal Budget" TheProgressive Jan 2013 #23
"must not be" is not the same as "isn't" truebluegreen Jan 2013 #24
News media, pundits, and politicians all use 'government spending' TheProgressive Jan 2013 #25
Yeah, sure... 99Forever Jan 2013 #18
I never dreamed BHO wanted to cut Social Security benefits until Messrs. indepat Jan 2013 #8
I never believed Obama wanted to cut Social Security benefits until he offered the pukes Autumn Jan 2013 #9
+100 nt truebluegreen Jan 2013 #12
Bho imo seems to have gone further to promote bi-partisanship than anyone in my memory indepat Jan 2013 #14
Neither do I. forestpath Jan 2013 #15
This time, for sure. Robb Jan 2013 #13
oh jesus here we go again pasto76 Jan 2013 #16
... Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #17
I second your snoring man Number23 Jan 2013 #32
Strong Indication That Some Elements Want To Attack/Disrupt The Left From The Left KittyWampus Jan 2013 #19
This president has a fetish for cutting Social Security MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #20
Beccara is an un-serious Firebagger who doesn't understand politics TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #21
Well, indetrminate means that either eventuality is EQUALLY probable. patrice Jan 2013 #26
To understand who Obama works for look at what he has already done. Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #27
"That is not to say that Social Security should be off the table. " ProSense Jan 2013 #30
Predictable.... greatauntoftriplets Jan 2013 #31
The President could alleviate these concerns.... kentuck Jan 2013 #34
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