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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
28. Yeah, I don't see where the $1 trillion number came from.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:03 PM
Jan 2013

It's really bad marketing. I think that they should call it something like a "platinum bond".

I was yelling at the screen a little too. I hate it when I do that. Squinch Jan 2013 #1
Agreed. Proceed Mr. President. politicaljunkie41910 Jan 2013 #5
LOVE that idea. Squinch Jan 2013 #8
Well, there is a limit. DanTex Jan 2013 #12
The trillion dollar coin doesn't have to be paid back. FarCenter Jan 2013 #2
But it will be payed back. DanTex Jan 2013 #3
Only if the debt ceiling is raised can the coin be bought back FarCenter Jan 2013 #4
That, or eventually when we start running a surplus, we pay it back in that way. DanTex Jan 2013 #6
But the government has to spend the trillion dollars FarCenter Jan 2013 #7
Right, but not all at once. DanTex Jan 2013 #9
The Fed doesn't need to sell bonds at all in order for the Treasury to spend the deposited coin FarCenter Jan 2013 #16
It doesn't need to, but it can (and it will). DanTex Jan 2013 #18
The Fed is actually buying bonds every month in order to implement quantitative easing FarCenter Jan 2013 #19
So? What difference does that make? DanTex Jan 2013 #21
Fed selling of bonds doesn't change the debt ceiling FarCenter Jan 2013 #23
That's the point -- the Fed can sell bonds without raising the ceiling. Read Krugman again. DanTex Jan 2013 #25
Surplus? Common Sense Party Jan 2013 #24
It's a legal and economic hack, and an effective one, which is why the right-wing's going apeshit. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #10
Sweet, if it has no ill effects, lets print out hundreds of those fuckers hughee99 Jan 2013 #11
Well, it's not "free money". Eventually it has to be payed back, just like real debt. DanTex Jan 2013 #13
So it's an accounting trick that temporarily allows us to appear to have more money hughee99 Jan 2013 #14
No. It's an accounting trick that allows us to borrow money without issuing more bonds. DanTex Jan 2013 #15
No, it is an accounting trick that allows us to create money out of nothing. FarCenter Jan 2013 #17
Umm, yeah, all fiat money is created out of nothing. We're not on the gold standard any more. DanTex Jan 2013 #22
That doesn't happen if the Treasury uses the coin(s) only to retire existing debt. Jim Lane Jan 2013 #27
Yeah, I don't see where the $1 trillion number came from. DanTex Jan 2013 #28
It starts as one trillion dollar coin brandonk Jan 2013 #20
For you probably pizza. Kalidurga Jan 2013 #26
They should mint a quadrillion dollar version so we don't have to worry about debt for a long time! Throd Jan 2013 #29
How on earth could the Fed sell those bonds? Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #30
What do you mean "how"? On the open market. DanTex Jan 2013 #31
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