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tama

(9,137 posts)
13. Good points
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:48 AM
Jan 2013

We are social animals and it's too limiting (and divisive!) to see psyche just as individual state. Social psychology is valid level of discussion and self-reflection, and as various cultures and social environments nurture and discourage various psychological states, "collective psyche" "psychosocial flaw" etc. are sensible terms.

It's very good to search for the roots of our problems in historical perspective, to understand them more fully. And that search leads at least to birth of agrarian societies and unsustainable farming methods which weaken the carrying capacity of the local ecosystem which in many cases leads to imperialistic expansion to consume other ecosystems in similar unsustainable and destructive way. Now that global financial capitalism is meeting global limits of growth, there is no more room for imperialistic expansion and the system is turning to eating up also it's former bases of strength - "austerity" and IMF taking over now also EU countries. In that regard the whole weight of what we define as "civilization" is at stake here.

What I disagree with is the view that "there's always gonna be someone up on top of the heap giving orders", that power hierarchy is the universal or even normal state of human cultures. That is not true according to data of cultural anthropology which studies also other cultures than civilizations. Most human cultures are and have been in fact egalitarian and anarchic. Of course there are projects where it makes to sense having someone giving orders (e.g. architect guiding the building of house), but in most cultures there are no institutional leaders that can give orders and expect or force others to follow them. Or even more importantly, that they don't have to work for their living but can expect others to work for them, just because they are "leaders". Notice the difference with those bankers etc. who "make money work for them", instead of participating in anything productive, the parasite classes of capitalistic hierarchy.

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