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WilliamPitt

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Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:19 AM Jan 2013

Why Hagel? [View all]

It appears Chuck Hagel is going to be nominated for Defense Secretary. I was immediately against it when his name was first floated, but have since reconsidered after taking a look at those who are opposing him. For years, Hagel has been JAFO (just another fucking Republican) to me...but the caliber of his new enemies, more than anything, compelled me to take a second look.

I am in favor of his nomination, for one very large reason: the political orthodoxies of the DoD (spending, Israel, etc.) have remained largely untouched by the last 30 Defense Secretaries, no matter what their political affiliations have been. Chuck Hagel has long held a reputation for absolutely refusing to embrace those orthodoxies...which is why so many people are dead-set against his nomination.

I want there to be significant cuts to the Defense budget. So, I believe, does Obama. So, it is widely known, does Chuck Hagel...so why nominate a Republican to Defense?

Because only Nixon can go to China.

Who better to take on the bloat in defense spending? It's a very canny selection.

If your concern over his nomination centers around his late-90s gay-bashing, I offer this spirited defense of the Hagel nomination from Glenn Greenwald, who is himself gay, and who hasn't had a good thing to say about the Obama administration in almost four years: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/05/hagel-liberals-gays-israel-democrats

Flame away.

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Why Hagel? [View all] WilliamPitt Jan 2013 OP
Another well thought out and written OP. Thanks. n/t Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #1
Agreed. n/t Still Sensible Jan 2013 #2
K&R..... spanone Jan 2013 #3
Hagel is a combat Infantry vet pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #4
Can't say it any better than you did, +1 n/t Victor_c3 Jan 2013 #24
Hitler and Churchill were combat veterans, neither had qualms about ordering men to die. FarCenter Jan 2013 #68
I had to ask "Why not Hagel?" vaberella Jan 2013 #5
And frankly, WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #7
I wonder what Hagel's on the repeal of DADT is? vaberella Jan 2013 #9
Quote WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #11
To equate opposition to marriage equality to refusing to hire a qualified person dsc Jan 2013 #19
Obviously, I was not the only person asking that question. Thanks. n/t vaberella Jan 2013 #82
Wall Street Journal article from yesterday says Obama was assured that Hagel TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #25
actually the quoted text doesn't agree with you header dsc Jan 2013 #27
Good to hear. I was also happy to hear that Hagel apologized for his homophobic comments. n/t vaberella Jan 2013 #84
If he brings troops home from A'stan he'll bring home all, SaveAmerica Jan 2013 #76
Not the best of sources waronxmas Jan 2013 #20
He. also, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #48
I love DU WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #49
Sorry ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #59
Hence the reason I refrained. Weren't democrats back then what Republicans are largely now? vaberella Jan 2013 #83
That's A New One On Me... KharmaTrain Jan 2013 #62
. . . . . WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #67
Andrew Jackson's actions in dealing with the Cherokee were both vile and unconstitutional. white_wolf Jan 2013 #53
Honestly, I am still dotymed Jan 2013 #44
That's where I'm at.... Little Star Jan 2013 #6
Glenn Greenwald cares deeply about civil liberties, constitutional process, & defense policy. Faryn Balyncd Jan 2013 #8
He may care deeply mimi85 Jan 2013 #42
Kicked! n/t sheshe2 Jan 2013 #10
No flames, I just don't believe Kelvin Mace Jan 2013 #12
Agreed alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #13
I don't discount concerns from progressives out of hand... That said, I'm NOT convinced by them. hlthe2b Jan 2013 #14
You want flames? I gotcher flames right here... pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #15
Want WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #18
Beautiful lead sled! 49 Merc? Dustlawyer Jan 2013 #23
nice uponit7771 Jan 2013 #32
I made much the same point yesterday in an answer to a post. s-cubed Jan 2013 #34
I could never have a car like that because A Simple Game Jan 2013 #56
To get a better price, of course. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #16
It took me an hour to get that. WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #35
*grin* Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #36
hagel will be a good pick madrchsod Jan 2013 #17
Of course. There are/were lots of Republicans in this administration. progressoid Jan 2013 #21
K & R. n/t FSogol Jan 2013 #22
Bill Clinton managed to cut defense spending during his first term without a Republican Secy. progressoid Jan 2013 #26
Here's a lengthy article that shows why Obama probably likes the guy... TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #28
Thanks! WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #30
this article provides a very good understanding of Nagel riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #63
I'm not against Republicans in the administration.... GatorOrange Jan 2013 #29
It's really simple think_critically Jan 2013 #31
Perhaps Obama needs to play different game CranialRectaLoopback Jan 2013 #37
I would suspect that the gop, in general, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #50
well, his opponents don't even know how the knight moves, so may a different game is in order.. snooper2 Jan 2013 #55
Agree. Finally, a voice of reason.......nft plethoro Jan 2013 #33
Give the guy a break. That was in the 90's. I guarantee a lot of others were saying it with him. judesedit Jan 2013 #38
thank you! Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #43
Great OP riqster Jan 2013 #39
If POTUS wants 'significant cuts' to the defense budget ... Myrina Jan 2013 #40
Barney Frank Dials Back Opposition to Hagel Nomination WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #41
OK, but what happened to Kerry? I thought it was going to be him. nt rivegauche Jan 2013 #45
Kerry for Secy of State.` progressoid Jan 2013 #46
DOH!! Thanks, I am dumb today. ;-) rivegauche Jan 2013 #74
Chuck Hagel went to the wall for Max Cleland mac56 Jan 2013 #47
I'm not anti Republican PatrynXX Jan 2013 #51
MJ Rosenberg on why Hagel has so much oposition buzzroller Jan 2013 #52
MJ assumes the Jewish Lobby (his term) is always the bad guy oberliner Jan 2013 #71
He has to do better on explaining himself regarding LGBTIQ rights.We should not accept anything less stevenleser Jan 2013 #54
Steve Clemmons at The Washington Note supports Hagel. mulsh Jan 2013 #57
And here is David Sirota's view buzzroller Jan 2013 #58
Defense Budget Accountability Peaceful Protester Jan 2013 #60
(Read More: Blowback, Sorrow and Consequences) Peaceful Protester Jan 2013 #61
Heh-heh, sometimes I forget how smart Chalmers Johnson was... immoderate Jan 2013 #81
Some might prefer that the job not be qualified by reverse McCarthyism TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #64
Just us acknowledging leftynyc Jan 2013 #65
Can you imagine the emails to Bernie Sanders? plethoro Jan 2013 #66
It's another one of those "best we can get" situations Taverner Jan 2013 #69
Might've been nice to not have chosen another white male oberliner Jan 2013 #72
Glenn Greenwald is an idiot oberliner Jan 2013 #70
Conservatives seem to be furious with the choice... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #73
I'm with you and Glenn Greenwald. MissMarple Jan 2013 #75
Just Imagine The Optics Of Republicans VIRULENTLY OpposingThe Nomination of REPUBLICAN Chuck Hagel Skraxx Jan 2013 #77
THAT? Will be merely theatrics for the easily fooled. WinkyDink Jan 2013 #88
For What Purpose? They Will Do Themselves No Favors With Those "Theatrics" Skraxx Jan 2013 #89
Kerry @ Sec'y State = Democratic Senate majority's loss; Hagel @ DoD Sec'y = Haliburton's loss Texas Lawyer Jan 2013 #78
Agreed, Will. But I have another, slightly parochial reason for liking Hagel as SecDef ... 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #79
Hagel is fine. jsr Jan 2013 #80
I support his nomination now, too Politicub Jan 2013 #85
Good points, Will. Two other considerations: watrwefitinfor Jan 2013 #86
Obviously, because we've run out of Democrats. Yes, I'm hard-core. To me, a "good Republican" WinkyDink Jan 2013 #87
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