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snot

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29. This is becoming my fave post:
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 02:22 AM
Jan 2013
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33471.htm :

"{W}hy do politicians only create new spending power for the purpose of waging war and destroying property, not to build or repair bridges, roads and other public infrastructure? Why should the government tax employees for future retirement payouts, but not Wall Street for similar user fees and financial insurance to build up a fund to pay for future bank over-lending crises? For that matter, why doesn’t the U.S. Government print the money to pay for Social Security and medical care, just as it created new debt for the $13 trillion post-2008 bank bailout?

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"There is no inherent need to single out any particular area of public spending as causing a budget deficit if it is not pre-funded. It is a travesty of progressive tax policy to only oblige workers whose wages are less than (at present) $105,000 to pay this FICA wage withholding, exempting higher earnings, capital gains, rental income and profits. The raison d’être for taxing the 99% for Social Security and Medicare is simply to avoid taxing wealth, by falling on low wage income at a much higher rate than that of the wealthy. This is not how the original U.S. income tax was created at its inception in 1913. During its early years only the wealthiest 1% of the population had to file a return. There were few loopholes, and capital gains were taxed at the same rate as earned income.

"The government’s seashore insurance program, for instance, recently incurred a $1 trillion liability to rebuild the private beaches and homes that Hurricane Sandy washed out. Why should this insurance subsidy at below-commercial rates for the wealthy minority who live in this scenic high-risk property be treated as normal spending, but not Social Security? Why save in advance by a special wage tax to pay for these programs that benefit the general population, but not levy a similar “user fee” tax to pay for flood insurance for beachfront homes or war? And while we are at it, why not save another $13 trillion in advance to pay for the next bailout of Wall Street when debt deflation causes another crisis to drain the budget?"

Much more at the link.
I totally agree. But from the news the payroll tax cut has been doc03 Dec 2012 #1
The FICA cut was something the Prez could do w/o the Congress bigbrother05 Dec 2012 #2
Well, that's a load of boloney... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #3
There's a lot of baloney being posted here lately. I'm amazed at the lack of civics knowledge. freshwest Dec 2012 #4
Lack of civics schooling is part of 'their' plan. TheProgressive Dec 2012 #6
good op Progressive! The intent is as exactly how you describe it. watch the apologists tell you he In Truth We Trust Dec 2012 #5
It is our duty to continue the democracy that the founders established... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #8
If you believe that, I've got a bridge . . . . JDPriestly Jan 2013 #30
It was part of a temporary stimulus package and should now be eliminated. grantcart Dec 2012 #7
Agreed. However, the 'news' people say it is reinstated... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #9
It's fine if they wanna retain the cut. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Yo_Mama Dec 2012 #11
The Social Security rate will be restored: DevonRex Jan 2013 #12
Decent humans has no problem paying their way.... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #13
Big K&R! Good riddance! grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #14
Agreed. SoapBox Jan 2013 #15
so you agree that the president's secret plan BainsBane Jan 2013 #17
its purpose is stimulus BainsBane Jan 2013 #16
All I can say is... wow- what a post! TheProgressive Jan 2013 #18
what are you talking about? BainsBane Jan 2013 #19
Three paragraphs of total gibberish... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #21
you have no idea what you're talking about BainsBane Jan 2013 #25
Well it is not a 'democratic' idea however it is an Obama pushed idea... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #27
questions about your misunderstanding? BainsBane Jan 2013 #28
google regressive taxation BainsBane Jan 2013 #22
That didn't work on me. I up'd my 401k contibution by 2% when it went into effect. RB TexLa Jan 2013 #23
but the poor spend it BainsBane Jan 2013 #26
It is definitely a help...... MzShellG Jan 2013 #20
How about just a normal tax cut instead... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #24
This is becoming my fave post: snot Jan 2013 #29
great read, thanks [nt] Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #32
It's not that simple. Everyone pays FICA, not everyone pays income tax Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #31
Yes, everyone who receives a paycheck up to $106k. But... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #33
Refundable tax credit, just like the subsidies in the Wealthcare and Profit Protection Act TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #34
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