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In reply to the discussion: Serious questions for those who are convinced that Obama, Clinton, and Gore are not liberals. [View all]madrchsod
(58,162 posts)252. all three are liberals
as was carter,lbj, ike,truman,fdr,and wilson.
4?...we learn from other`s mistakes.
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Serious questions for those who are convinced that Obama, Clinton, and Gore are not liberals. [View all]
Buzz Clik
Dec 2012
OP
Elizabeth Warren said EVERYTHING is on the table regarding Iran.oops there goes another
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#166
Do you really think anyone perceives your questions as anything other than rhetorical? eom
tledford
Dec 2012
#192
Oh, I understand what "rhetorical" means and every single response you've made in this thread...
tledford
Dec 2012
#199
Conservatism is fed by ignorance. The more one is educated, the more one rejects conservatism.
Scuba
Dec 2012
#26
actually, people with less education are more likely to vote democrat. college-educated =
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#232
in the last election, people with less education were more likely to vote democratic.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#254
A lot of people, me included, didnt realize NAFTA would do what it did. Those people were mistaken
stevenleser
Dec 2012
#260
by the responses you are giving to people's answers and the attitude in which you are giving them
liberal_at_heart
Dec 2012
#170
LOL! Despite several efforts to derail this conversation, the conversation is happening.
Buzz Clik
Dec 2012
#45
I can practically see you sitting on the edge of your seat, getting more and more frustrated as
Marr
Dec 2012
#157
I did! My favorite part was where someone thanked you for admitting that Clinton and Gore
Marr
Dec 2012
#171
How does electablity of true liberals in any way support the position that Obama, Clinton
tavalon
Dec 2012
#210
"Considering that only a small fraction of the population is liberal..." equals "fail".
Scuba
Dec 2012
#30
If Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and Obama are NOT liberals, then very few Americans ...
Buzz Clik
Dec 2012
#49
Compromising does NOT mean proposing only what you imagine your opponent will accept
Lydia Leftcoast
Dec 2012
#35
You didn't "jump the fence". You stayed where you were while the TeaParty went further right.
Scuba
Dec 2012
#58
Yes, as a Minnesotan, I can attest to his being popular among at least two groups of people
Lydia Leftcoast
Dec 2012
#37
Your comparing liberals with the Tea Party is too offensive to bother answering your "questions."
forestpath
Dec 2012
#33
Depends. That list includes conservative neoliberals, liberal neoliberals, liberal neoconservatives
leveymg
Dec 2012
#60
I don't think we agree on the terms we're using here, so it's hard to agree on your conclusions
leveymg
Dec 2012
#121
1: Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders (at the Senatorial level). 2: Elizabeth
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#66
3. Clearly I have no idea what a liberal is because I think Gore, Clinton, and Obama are liberals.
Buzz Clik
Dec 2012
#74
You can use the 'liberal' label all you want, but if you fail to define your terms you're
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#93
OK, I just wanted to be clear. You consider Clinton a 'progressive'. You are
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#176
If 1/3 of this thread agree with you that Clinton was a 'progressive,' then that provides
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#185
Why do you suppose that the right despises Clinton in spite of his conservative views?
Buzz Clik
Dec 2012
#76
It does not matter. I form my own opinions independent of the entrenched right or left.
Buzz Clik
Dec 2012
#115
Neoliberals = liberals, social democrats = liberals, but neoliberals =/= socials democrats.
PETRUS
Dec 2012
#95
"Don't be silly. The purist left could never organize the way the Tea Party has."
Puzzledtraveller
Dec 2012
#114
as for your "loaded" questions, #2 - few thought obama was electable til he ran nt
msongs
Dec 2012
#113
Agreed. Those of us who worked our asses off for Obama were pleasantly surprised.
Buzz Clik
Dec 2012
#117
I stopped at Sanders and Warren so as not to make a long list. There are some
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#119
Feingold might just be the strongest of all the possibilities, although he
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#174
So, the wide majority of teabaggers are highly intelligent informed voters?
AgingAmerican
Dec 2012
#249
I'd pose the above questions to losers like Jill Stein, Roseanne Barr, and Rocky Anderson.
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2012
#173
When you ask about ISSUES rather than candidates, the Green etc. candidates do well
Lydia Leftcoast
Dec 2012
#245
I agree. Their biggest mistake is trying to highjack the Democratic Party....
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2012
#258
Protecting the interests of ordinary people over the interests of the Wall Street pirates is
Lydia Leftcoast
Dec 2012
#214
LOL. Yes, they do. Millennials are more liberal than those who came of age during Ronnie Raygun
RainDog
Dec 2012
#228
In other words, Clinton is the first Dem president you observed closely
Lydia Leftcoast
Dec 2012
#247
Well, according to the same group that is oh-so-worried about Obama and Clinton...
Buzz Clik
Dec 2012
#196
Gore was a founding member of the DLC and supported the Contras and Reagan's military buildup
Lydia Leftcoast
Dec 2012
#215