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In reply to the discussion: Drone Strikes Are Causing Child Casualties -- 178 So Far [View all]Prometheus Bound
(3,489 posts)18. Here's the jist of the Pakistani argument supporting drone strikes.
The drone debate
....But all evidence points to the decimation of tribal leaders with the courage to stand up to the terrorists who have infested and taken over their villages. Every time they have tried to raise a lashkar to fight the militants, they have been gunned down, blown up, or beheaded. According to the South Asia Terrorism Portal, a website on terrorism in South Asia, 109 tribal elders have been killed by terrorists in the last seven years....
....A New American Foundation analysis cited by Peter Bergen in a CNN report suggests that under Obama, civilian fatalities were 11 per cent of the total killed in the drone campaign, and stand at two per cent in 2012. Conversely, the number of militants killed is 89 per cent of the fatalities.
While even a single death is tragic, few in the anti-drone camp talk about the tens of thousands of civilians and soldiers slaughtered by the militants. They are similarly silent about the hundreds of schools blown up by the Taliban. How many Malalas have been deprived of an education because of the stone-age mentality of these killers?
In talks I have given at universities in the US, the UK and Pakistan, I have been frequently asked about the drone attacks.
In response, I have posed a counter-question: if the drone attacks are stopped, what is the alternative? Should we allow these armed gangs to continue making life hell for the unfortunate villagers they hide behind? Should the Americans permit them to cross the border at will and launch attacks across Afghanistan?....
http://dawn.com/2012/10/13/the-drone-debate-3/
....But all evidence points to the decimation of tribal leaders with the courage to stand up to the terrorists who have infested and taken over their villages. Every time they have tried to raise a lashkar to fight the militants, they have been gunned down, blown up, or beheaded. According to the South Asia Terrorism Portal, a website on terrorism in South Asia, 109 tribal elders have been killed by terrorists in the last seven years....
....A New American Foundation analysis cited by Peter Bergen in a CNN report suggests that under Obama, civilian fatalities were 11 per cent of the total killed in the drone campaign, and stand at two per cent in 2012. Conversely, the number of militants killed is 89 per cent of the fatalities.
While even a single death is tragic, few in the anti-drone camp talk about the tens of thousands of civilians and soldiers slaughtered by the militants. They are similarly silent about the hundreds of schools blown up by the Taliban. How many Malalas have been deprived of an education because of the stone-age mentality of these killers?
In talks I have given at universities in the US, the UK and Pakistan, I have been frequently asked about the drone attacks.
In response, I have posed a counter-question: if the drone attacks are stopped, what is the alternative? Should we allow these armed gangs to continue making life hell for the unfortunate villagers they hide behind? Should the Americans permit them to cross the border at will and launch attacks across Afghanistan?....
http://dawn.com/2012/10/13/the-drone-debate-3/
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and where are the daily editorials at du about those children's deaths and the need to ban
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#1
nah, there's plenty of talk about dead children. just not the children the US kills overseas.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#3
Most DUers don't want to bother their beautiful minds with the blood of dead brown children!
Melinda
Dec 2012
#13
It's because guns have only ONE possible use and that's to kill people...
OneMoreDemocrat
Dec 2012
#15
Only Murdered White Children from Affluent Neighborhoods get people upset
Resonance_Chamber
Dec 2012
#4
A dead child is a dead child, but saying this in some way discounts "murdered white children"...
Comrade_McKenzie
Dec 2012
#11
So it is OK to kill other peoples kids but white american kids are untouchable?
Resonance_Chamber
Dec 2012
#12
I would bet that at least 20 poor black kids died on that same day ...somewhere.
L0oniX
Dec 2012
#20
a dead child is obviously *not* a dead child. as witness the multiple daily posts about the
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#14
The damn terrsts is living at home using their famblies as human shields. Nt.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2012
#9
Not our fault. Just like it isn't Israel's fault when kids get bombed in Gaza.
The Straight Story
Dec 2012
#10