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In reply to the discussion: BULLSHIT that it's a victory. Let's get our compasses straight as Democrats. [View all]Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)194. When governing is reduced to a team sport and combined with a complete withdrawal
into a fantasy world, this is what you get.
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BULLSHIT that it's a victory. Let's get our compasses straight as Democrats. [View all]
woo me with science
Dec 2012
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Our expectations are so low that "it's not a staggering loss yet!" is viewed as resounding victory
villager
Dec 2012
#1
That's his story. How soon is he going to publicly state that he wants to privatize it in order to
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#106
Huh? This is the SECOND TIME this president has stealthily offered to cut Social Security.
Marr
Dec 2012
#42
So the "story" is that the "adult" offered the very reasonable option of chained CPI.
Bonobo
Dec 2012
#75
Stupid ass move my ass! We all know Obama isn't stupid. The question should be,
Dustlawyer
Dec 2012
#177
Actually, they didn't go "home with NOTHING in their hands." They went home with an offer to cut SS.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#95
Validating your opponent's position on not only austerity, but SS + the deficit is a "tactic"?
Marr
Dec 2012
#110
Exactly, All the shitspewers who squeal about his "mad negotiating skillz!"
kenny blankenship
Dec 2012
#174
Yep - the overwhelming angst of about 100 of these posts mean they are losing the narrative.
cliffordu
Dec 2012
#61
what "reality"? The one where President Obama offered a chained CPI to SS? Still on the table
Vincardog
Dec 2012
#152
Tell me one banker brought up on Criminal charges by this administration. You can't do it.
Vincardog
Dec 2012
#165
Obama is not the issue, he is just a politician who will be gone in four years.
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#205
If we can restore the tax cuts on people below $250K, I'm fine with (most of) the rest of it.
reformist2
Dec 2012
#3
True. But I'd like it, if it was offered by the President as part of the great game of chess.....
Little Star
Dec 2012
#119
If there is truly one thing that is "off the table," it is defense expenditures.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#26
"Every single time Democrats reinforce this narrative, it is damaging to the country. "
Bonobo
Dec 2012
#9
Actually, they didn't go "home with their tail between their legs". They went with an offer to cut
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#96
An offer the Rape-publi-scum did not accept because it was coupled
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#120
What are you talking about? The two year shield or the bump at a certain age?
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#118
What's the strategy? Pelosi says he's going to accept the Chained CPI. Is she
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#37
The Part B that passed is HR6684 and Reid said it won't be brought to a vote in the Senate.
PoliticAverse
Dec 2012
#163
Nancy Pelosi is a liar then? And so is Steny Hoyer? Is that what you are saying?
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#64
Please do not remind us of the HC debacle. If you think progressives were not
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#76
There's the Third Way again: "Progressives are not in the majority."
woo me with science
Dec 2012
#109
I'm on the way to a meeting with local activists for a talk and a beer right now
cliffordu
Dec 2012
#184
And people who are upset with the corporate takeover of our party?
woo me with science
Dec 2012
#189
When governing is reduced to a team sport and combined with a complete withdrawal
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2012
#194
I call it support for Obama's bluff. The Rape-publi-scum suck at poker (Obama's
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#121
I understand your position and the progressive in me firmly agrees. However, the
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#146
Abuse of Shakespeare still doesn't give your 'argument' any substance. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2012
#56
I know, huh. I mean, some of us don't even watch TV & were totally fooled by those
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2012
#117
Methinks he hath left the realm of Midgard and taken Bifrost to the wastes of Niffelheim!
Bonobo
Dec 2012
#48
Well, "I will never cut Social Security" was a helluva campaing slogan,
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2012
#33
That was just the opening move in the long gambit that won us this big victory! nt
Bonobo
Dec 2012
#35
Thank you! Well said. Bedrock Democratic values as bargaining chips. Austerity for the 99% is not
Overseas
Dec 2012
#39
Un-rec. ignoring the facts & just saying stuff doesn't make it so, no matter what labels it wears.
patrice
Dec 2012
#43
What facts is he ignoring? You were just explaining to me yesterday that it was essential
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2012
#54
Please quote precisely how you get that out of what I said in that post. Admitting the POSSIBILITY
patrice
Dec 2012
#63
President had better recognize it wasn't just a repuke candidate rejected, it was their IDEAS too
on point
Dec 2012
#51
Obama is to the Right of Ronald Reagan's ghost on Social Security for Pete's sake
99th_Monkey
Dec 2012
#52
Honestly, I'm having trouble figuring out if this is for real, or are we being fucked with. It's so
patrice
Dec 2012
#66
Are we supposed to be thankful that a Democratic president offered to cut Social Security?
jsr
Dec 2012
#87
"BULLSHIT that anything happening now is a victory or that we should be celebrating"
ProSense
Dec 2012
#91
Big Money is running this show and we're all gonna get fucked until all the fucking is done
datasuspect
Dec 2012
#105
I'll dare. Boehner's failure to rally his own party to vote for his alternative is a FAILURE for him
bigtree
Dec 2012
#113
On a bright note, it's good to see progressives rallying to defend Social Security and Medicare.
limpyhobbler
Dec 2012
#139
Sometimes, the best you can hope for is hurting them more than yourself.
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2012
#159