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sabrina 1

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20. We need real leaders. Dems have allowed, and probably even aided and abetted

Reply to madfloridian (Reply #17)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:52 PM

Dec 2012

the Republican lies about SS. I admit that not so long ago I even bought into the lies, assuming that by the time I retired, 'there would be nothing left'. The propaganda was so successful that it is not at all unusual to hear even Dems, like me, make that false statement.

And then I decided to start doing some research and I learned what a total lie it was.

But if we had a Dem Party working as hard to counter those lies, as the liars worked to propagate them, no one would be fooled by them.

So the question is, 'why have Dems allowed the Right to lie with virtually no one fighting them?

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Rescuing Social Security again...and again...and again. Same song, many verses. [View all] madfloridian Dec 2012 OP

K&R. Every DUer should read this. MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #1

Yes, and they have gotten very good at perpetrating it. madfloridian Dec 2012 #5

Points out that it is not just about the elderly.. madfloridian Dec 2012 #2

kr. the 1983 fix was supposed to 'save' ss for the boomers -- that was supposedly the reason HiPointDem Dec 2012 #3

How many realize that Social Security is double taxed? madfloridian Dec 2012 #4

Moynihan "acknowledged that the insolvency of Social Security was a hoax" madfloridian Dec 2012 #6

The thing I don't get is what do they get for it? hootinholler Dec 2012 #7

The General Fund won't have to repay the money borrowed from MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #8

You know the 2% payroll tax cut...is it still on? madfloridian Dec 2012 #9

Current Democratic and Republican proposals both end the payroll tax cut nt MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #11

Thanks. madfloridian Dec 2012 #12

It's a successful and popular example of "big government" JHB Dec 2012 #13

Shrinking government. madfloridian Dec 2012 #14

Not redux JHB Dec 2012 #15

Yep. Sure doesn't matter who's president. They're all the same when it comes to forestpath Dec 2012 #10

The Republican Noise Machine convinced everyone SS was in crisis. madfloridian Dec 2012 #17

We need real leaders. Dems have allowed, and probably even aided and abetted sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #20

Yes. madfloridian Dec 2012 #21

J. K Galbraith at Truthout, on changing the cola. madfloridian Dec 2012 #16

And we'll CONTINUE to have to "save" SS as long....... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #18

Exactly right. madfloridian Dec 2012 #19