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In reply to the discussion: Anyone know why a Sandy Hook teacher's *car* was "riddled with bullets" that day? [View all]jberryhill
(62,444 posts)36. No, I'm not changing the subject
"Innocent until proven guilty" is a shorthand adage of relevance to the presumption afforded a defendant in a criminal trial. Adam Lanza is not going to be getting a trial. He is not going to be a criminal defendant. We do not try dead people.
You then raised the question of "what if someone sues the school". That would be a civil suit, not a criminal trial, and there is no "innocent" or "guilty" in a civil trial, nor any relevant presumptions relating to those terms. In a civil trial, one is found liable or not liable by a preponderance of the evidence, and there are no presumptions on the way in as a general matter other than the plaintiff having the burden to demonstrate liability by a preponderance.
But, what is particularly interesting about your initial statement about prejudice is your conclusion here: "both responsible parties were essentially on the MSNBC payroll -- tell you everything you need to know about this particular crime".
Had I known you were going to crazytown on this, I wouldn't have bothered.
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Anyone know why a Sandy Hook teacher's *car* was "riddled with bullets" that day? [View all]
rainbow4321
Dec 2012
OP
The NY Daily News seems to be the only one claiming that, so it's probably bullshit. nt
onehandle
Dec 2012
#1
it really was one of the worst reporting i have watched, on an event like this. nt
seabeyond
Dec 2012
#3
Little bodies with many of those horrible bullets. A horror too impossible to imagine!
Auntie Bush
Dec 2012
#6
Effective range for that weapon, the whole school and parking lot were within it.
nadinbrzezinski
Dec 2012
#37
I read somewhere that 4 teachers the day before argued with the kid at the school. He
southernyankeebelle
Dec 2012
#7
I guess I just don't understand why anyone thinks the killer had some kind of rationale.
Chorophyll
Dec 2012
#14
Are you suggesting the killer had a motive? I mean, why was ANYTHING riddled with bullets
Chorophyll
Dec 2012
#9
While you're at it, can you also tell us who carried out the 9/11 attacks?
Common Sense Party
Dec 2012
#54
According to this article, the bullets fired in the classroom went through the outer wall...
Spazito
Dec 2012
#18
I'm a regular sub for paras (teacher assistants) and the teachers themselves in CT.
Jennicut
Dec 2012
#50
newspapers shouldn't be allowed to just remove stuff when they make such ridiculous mistakes
farminator3000
Dec 2012
#27