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Segami

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Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:19 PM Dec 2012

Nancy Pelosi Says Social Security CUT Proposed By Obama Would 'Strengthen' Program [View all]




Was this their plan from the get-go? Did we swallow their seasoned tripe hook, line and sinker?





WASHINGTON -- Congressional Democrats, led by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), signaled greater willingness on Wednesday to cut Social Security benefits, with the party now considering a change to the way inflation is calculated for recipients. Pelosi told reporters on Capitol Hill that a cut proposed by President Barack Obama in the fiscal cliff negotiations would in fact "strengthen" the program, echoing the claims often made by Republicans about entitlement programs they want to slash. Her remarks come a day after she said that liberals in Congress who are unhappy with Obama's concession to the GOP would nevertheless support them.



The cut involves swapping out the traditional method for calculating cost of living increases, based on the current standard for measuring inflation, for something called a chained CPI, or chained Consumer Price Index. The chained CPI works by assuming that when the price of a product, such as beef, gets too high, consumers don't keep paying the higher prices. Instead, the model predicts they will switch to something cheaper, such as chicken, keeping their cost of living lower and leading to a lower rate of inflation, as measured by the chained CPI. The lower rate of inflation would mean a downward adjustment in cost of living, and thus stingier benefits.



The cuts would start small, but wind up costing beneficiaries thousands of dollars over time, which is why Democrats have traditionally fought the idea.But Pelosi wrapped both her arms around it Wednesday, insisting she does not regard it as a "cut." "No, I don’t," she told reporters. "I consider it a strengthening of Social Security, but that’s neither here nor there."



"There’s no use even discussing that because we don’t even know if we have plan," she continued. "And if the savings that the Republicans are talking about is $300 billion, then the cuts to be made on the other side are far lower. And that’s how we see it. But it is interesting to see that even with the concessions on cuts and, what you just described, the chained CPI and things like that -– the president put on the table what everybody has been discussing for quite a long time. And once again, as he did 18 months ago, the speaker walked away. The speaker walked away. There’s an attempt to try to put it at the president’s doorstep, which is completely ridiculous. In fact, some would say, 'befuddling.'"





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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/19/nancy-pelosi-social-security_n_2333285.html
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I suspected it was only a matter of time until the 'S' word was used. PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #1
Bullshit nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #2
+1000 n/t southern_belle Dec 2012 #34
The day they support and pass this is the day I change my party affiliation to Autumn Dec 2012 #3
Same here. Reading these weasel words from her makes me furious. nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #20
'"echoing the claims made by Republicans.." Maybe she and Boehner can sing a duet. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #4
Oh. Fucking. Marvelous. MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #5
Ya Hydra Dec 2012 #29
Cuts = strengthen. Also, if you have lots of sex you get your virginity back. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #6
You can't get pregnant from rape either. Autumn Dec 2012 #7
LOLOL! Segami Dec 2012 #8
The chocolate ration has been increased! woo me with science Dec 2012 #9
chocolate ration? Shit, I wanted peas Autumn Dec 2012 #10
My plan is better Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #11
This is cruel beyond belief. forestpath Dec 2012 #12
We are strengthening Social Security. Pray we don't strengthen it any further. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #13
Anymore strengthening and we'll have a national SS crisis on our hands. Segami Dec 2012 #36
That's the exact words Paul Ryan used for his cuts in SS and doc03 Dec 2012 #14
I got a letter from the AARP today opposing that "Strengthening" along doc03 Dec 2012 #15
This sucks big time. It's a way to hit CURRENT beneficiaries, not just future ones. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #16
I was just thinking how nice it would be if Alan Grayson or Barbara Lee were Minority Leader byeya Dec 2012 #17
I thought Dems won this past election. shcrane71 Dec 2012 #18
With an est. net worth of 58 MILLION dollars, Nancy Pelosi does not represent you. kenny blankenship Dec 2012 #19
well said! thank you. nt wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #23
You put it beautifully Hydra Dec 2012 #30
and eliminating SS would make it invulnerable cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #21
The way amputation strengthens your body. jsr Dec 2012 #22
This chained cpi is a $13B/year for 10 years cut... How about this... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #24
How about we take your government pension away and put you on SS and see if that's a cut. neverforget Dec 2012 #25
So, we voted in Obama only to find his stances are measuring up to a Romney. FU, Nancy Pelosi, this mother earth Dec 2012 #26
Fuck you, Nancy Pelosi. FUCK YOU. MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #27
Well, I was conned by Nancy and admired her. Riley18 Dec 2012 #28
Nancy went on camera in 2006 and told us to shut up and sit down Hydra Dec 2012 #32
I guess that's one way of looking at it. City Lights Dec 2012 #31
Fooled ya AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #33
reminds me of Bush's "Clear Skies Act," which rolled back emissions regulations to 1980s poor standa amborin Dec 2012 #35
What a horrible thing for a liberal to say. *shakes head* reformist2 Dec 2012 #37
What??? 840high Dec 2012 #38
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