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JDPriestly

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15. dkf, no. That is not how this worked. That is not how this works.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:08 PM
Dec 2012

The trust fund is solvent long enough to get a good portion of baby boomers through their retirement. And if our economy continues to improve, it will be solvent much longer than that.

If the problem were a depleted Trust Fund, then President Obama would not have advocated for cutting the payroll taxes. Obama was a proponent of cutting the payroll taxes, and he apparently wants to continue the cuts, so that means he is not doing this because he is concerned about depleting the trust fund.

Besides, Carney stated that they are considering adopting chained CPI for all government programs.

I wonder whether they would adopt it in figuring out farm subsidies. That would be interesting.

I wonder whether the CPi would go up if poor people simply spent more and borrowed and went into even more debt.

This is the most unsound economic policy yet.

The reason that I say that is that it discourages poor people from trying to save. It is a disincentive to trying to make ends meet without debt.

If people live on their income and save a bit, then the chained CPI results in their receiving less money. That is crazy. Absolutely the opposite of what we need in a country that is impoverished due to too much debt.

Once again, this policy is a banker's dream and a mother's nightmare. On top of that, it is sexist. Women live longer than men in this country in general. Thus, we have more women in their 80s and 90s than men. That means that women will be the ones whose Social Security and other benefits are reduced right when they are the most helpless and likely to need expensive medications and medical aids such as wheel chairs and home assistants.

Worse than a lie - It's BETRAYAL arjazz Dec 2012 #1
Clearly...............nft plethoro Dec 2012 #2
Worse still, it is a THEFT from the PEOPLE, not the fund. Coyotl Dec 2012 #24
It is theft. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #14
I'm glad you see John2 Dec 2012 #25
Are Democrats really different ..don't think so INdemo Dec 2012 #19
i see it as a joke Enrique Dec 2012 #3
It wouldn't be a theft from the system, it would be there for others to receive. dkf Dec 2012 #4
Yes and if we cut benefits more and more, it will be "solvent" longer and longer. The trust fund was rhett o rick Dec 2012 #6
If the cap was lifted a bit, it would be funded for a long long long time. djean111 Dec 2012 #7
The trust IS solvent. You are confusing the Fed Budget with the SS Fund and sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #11
dkf, no. That is not how this worked. That is not how this works. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #15
President Obama obviously took Romney's advice when they met recently. forestpath Dec 2012 #5
K & R. dchill Dec 2012 #8
Shhhh, you imagined that cutting SS was in the agreement offered to the sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #9
new levels of cynicism; Obama stood up there before freezing crowds in the evening in Iowa amborin Dec 2012 #10
His credibility was in doubt jsr Dec 2012 #29
The rick fucks and pukes JEB Dec 2012 #12
this is ALL BULLSHIT. the publikklans have perverted the landscape since the 70's. pansypoo53219 Dec 2012 #13
+100000 No Compromise Dec 2012 #20
+1000 blackspade Dec 2012 #16
Recommend...! KoKo Dec 2012 #17
+1 valerief Dec 2012 #18
K&R (n/t) a2liberal Dec 2012 #21
I have mostly only heard denial, only one "they are doing what they have to for now" and A Simple Game Dec 2012 #22
What do you mean John2 Dec 2012 #27
Sorry, typed won when I should have typed ran. n/t A Simple Game Dec 2012 #30
Sorry I didn't finish my reply in the last post, had to leave for a while. A Simple Game Dec 2012 #31
Thank you. madfloridian Dec 2012 #23
K & Fookin' R AzDar Dec 2012 #26
Your posts on inflation and the CPI are completely and utterly wrong mathematic Dec 2012 #28
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