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In reply to the discussion: I just noticed that amongst all the 'blame the parents' and 'arm the teacher' threads [View all]Gregorian
(23,867 posts)67. When you say 'blame the parents' threads, you're talking about me.
I want to solve a problem, not fix the symptoms. Behind my posts, you might not have realized it, but I never said let's not take guns out of the hands of dangerous people. I shouldn't have to, as that's pretty obvious.
Are we going to argue, or are we going to make this a better world?
And I say the same thing about tobacco. If we're just apes, and relatively brainless creatures, then yes, we go after tobacco companies. And again, if they're lying about the harmful nature of tobacco, then we need to clamp down on them, and we did. But the cost of nicotine for our society was in the operating rooms. So it seems like the problem isn't with the companies but with the people putting the cigarettes to their mouths.
Why is this so hard to understand? I feel like I'm up against George Bush and his "you're either with us or against us" mentality.
I want a better world. Whatever it takes, in fact, everything it takes should be part of the discussion.
It just so happens that those who shape the minds of infants are most likely the biggest factor in what we're seeing. Blame? I don't see any benefit from blame or punishment. I only see repair, healing, learning, recovery. And just maybe a society that is one of health and beauty.
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I just noticed that amongst all the 'blame the parents' and 'arm the teacher' threads [View all]
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
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Pursuant to this, I am reviewing all the mutual funds in my IRA this week to make
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#8
I'm not entirely disagreeing with you but, in this case, with the owner of the firearms
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#16
Wow, I know enough to know when I am in the presence of an expert and
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#25
Thank you for that annotation. I believe I worded my post to which you
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#85
Owning a tiger is highly regulated, highly restricted, and highly monitored.
IllinoisBirdWatcher
Dec 2012
#30
That was a very good post, thanks. People who own guns should thus secure them & be INSURED in the
KittyWampus
Dec 2012
#48
I put a weapon like the one used in Sandy Creek at PRECISELY the same level as NBC weapons
RomneyLies
Dec 2012
#7
Look, I think everyone on this forum who read my use of 'WMD' understood
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#73
The gun industry has never claimed their product doesn't kill people...
Jeff In Milwaukee
Dec 2012
#24
Agreed. But his mother was a Glenn Beck type, who stockpiled ammo and guns.
progressivebydesign
Dec 2012
#27
Typical deflection tactics. They want people to waste time arguing about parents/drugs/teachers
jsr
Dec 2012
#42
I blame the gun manufacturers for marketing their products to potentially violent,
Moses2SandyKoufax
Dec 2012
#63
People tried suing the gun manufacturers but the Supreme Court ruled it out.
jerseyjack
Dec 2012
#64
I actually was not talking about you specifically or even generally. At least I don't
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#72
I have a measure of difficulty with that statement. What about children who are taught racism.
olegramps
Dec 2012
#82
When you make people killers and they do their job and kill people, is it the makers or the users or
The Wielding Truth
Dec 2012
#77