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In reply to the discussion: Two U.S. graphs. [View all]

Gore1FL

(21,165 posts)
16. If you wish to compare apples to oranges they are awesome.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:41 PM
Dec 2012

I am for gun control and don't own guns. Your assessment of my non-existent "problem" is incorrect.

I could meaningfully comment if the graphs were to a common scale. They aren't. How many deaths per year in Vietnam? Afghanistan? Iraq? U.S. Schools? How many years would it take to fill that stadium? Answer those questions and your 1st graph might have some useful meaning.

As far as the second graph, comparing 23 years of shootings vs 86 years of lynchings is meaningful, why exactly?

Why were the specific year ranges selected? That seems arbitrary at best.

Give me real information and real comparable data. Otherwise all you are giving me is propaganda and it hurts your case.

Please don't confuse the inability of the graphs to provide useful comparative information with me being "rattled" or "offended". I actually support what the graph is trying to argue. It simply does it incorrectly and ineffectively.

If you would like to be civil and discuss this further, I am will to continue. If you insist on attacking me over the ineffectiveness of the graphs you provided, then we are done.

TTFN

Two U.S. graphs. [View all] Robb Dec 2012 OP
misleading bossy22 Dec 2012 #1
Children dying of gang-related, gun violence shouldn't be considered? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #3
Well, you know. Robb Dec 2012 #4
I'm with you Gore1FL Dec 2012 #5
Two stories. Two graphs. Robb Dec 2012 #7
Because that is how graphs work. Gore1FL Dec 2012 #10
Bullshit. Both graphs are in proportion. Robb Dec 2012 #14
If you wish to compare apples to oranges they are awesome. Gore1FL Dec 2012 #16
Careful, you might hurt my internet feelings. Robb Dec 2012 #21
What? Gore1FL Dec 2012 #23
Show me one study that calls 25 year-olds "teens." Robb Dec 2012 #6
Lots to be found at the Brady/VPC site. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #12
Show me one. Robb Dec 2012 #13
Do your own homework. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #19
You made the claim. Clearly an untrue one. Robb Dec 2012 #20
Whether or not you choose to believe them, ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #25
So knock the top 40% off and it's still a fucking horror show. TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #8
0-19. And your post is massively racist. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #9
I think it's misleading, too. Or doesn't represent what it intends to. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #11
It makes a similar, if opposite, argument to that made about cars. Robb Dec 2012 #15
So the car graphs are valid? Gore1FL Dec 2012 #17
Who are you talking to? Robb Dec 2012 #22
You. Do you read your own subject lines? Gore1FL Dec 2012 #24
your defense pisses me off. spanone Dec 2012 #26
Thanks for the graphs - very enlightening and puts the carnage into perspective. byeya Dec 2012 #2
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #18
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