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In reply to the discussion: I Am Surprised That Michigan Defeated The Pro Union Amendment. [View all]Recursion
(56,582 posts)53. Well, non-union workers *were* turned away, but not for being non-union
And if "alleged" isn't strong enough for you, hide my post; I don't care. But that's the problem I see: unions (other than SEIU and a few others) refuse to look at the image they've managed to give themselves.
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I Am Surprised That Michigan Defeated The Pro Union Amendment. [View all]
TheMastersNemesis
Dec 2012
OP
I want to watch the channel you watch. It was intensely anti-Prop 2 here.
Barack_America
Dec 2012
#11
I don't blame the unions. I blame the Supreme Court for allowing endless $...
Barack_America
Dec 2012
#24
Endless SECRET $. So one wonders what kind of deals have been bought with the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
patrice
Dec 2012
#28
Please see #32. I'm not sure the WHOLE thing can be explained as ir-rational hate. & It does NO
patrice
Dec 2012
#33
I was one of the first ones to point that out in the original thread; you're missing the point
Recursion
Dec 2012
#44
LOL, just checked out Candice Miller on Wikipedia, her daughter is a member of thr
Fla Dem
Dec 2012
#6
Absafreakinglutely!!! I am sick and tired of scaredy-cat Dems!!! In our state they're so WEAK
patrice
Dec 2012
#35
It was a huge mistake to push for collective bargaining in the Michigan Constitution.
Romulox
Dec 2012
#15
The result was sort of an "anti-referendum", imo. It gave the Repubs the cover needed.
Romulox
Dec 2012
#17
if you haven't noticed the 40-year-anti-union campaign, you've been in a hole somewhere.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#67
it is. 30-second google: wsj 2012: "Overpaid Public Workers: The Evidence Mounts"
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#70
No, I seriously and sincerely don't think there's been any sort of propaganda campaign
Recursion
Dec 2012
#77
disingenuous -- you yourself passed along a piece of anti-union propaganda in this very thread.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#64
Generally, it is about following the contract, not how hard you work. Let me explain.
erinlough
Dec 2012
#80
so its still up to the business and its workers to decide if they want to unionize, right?
underoath
Dec 2012
#93
There are big companies with partial organization, plus there are some "two-tier" industries
Recursion
Dec 2012
#95
The people they should be persuading but insist on calling "freeloaders" and "scabs"
Recursion
Dec 2012
#84
Free loaders might not be the right term. "Free riders" is a real economic term for people who
Squinch
Dec 2012
#106
wont this let the business and its workers decide if they want to be Union or no?
underoath
Dec 2012
#61
It means that union workers who pay thier dues, subsidize scabs who go to work there
SoCalDem
Dec 2012
#78
but the business and its workers still have the right to decide to unionize if they want to, right?
underoath
Dec 2012
#91
Yes, this is an attack on already-existing unions. The attack on forming new unions...
Recursion
Dec 2012
#97
Where is the EFCA? They never voted, right? Is it still somewhere in Congress? Killed in committee?
patrice
Dec 2012
#100
Citizens' United. It can fund unions too, so as all of this crap about jobs works itself through
patrice
Dec 2012
#98
The Amendment was a classic case of having a good idea, but dramatically over-reaching.
bluestate10
Dec 2012
#109