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1StrongBlackMan

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Fri Dec 7, 2012, 11:39 AM Dec 2012

Okay, A day has passed and I have calmed, somewhat ... [View all]

Yesterday morning I was listening to a NPR segment in which the fiscal cliff was being discussed. The segment included a couple economists (one from the IMF) that have studied the effects of deficit reduction strategies. I was, initially, encouraged knowing that the IMF has publically stated that "austerity promotes stunted economic growth, relative to increasing upper-income earners' taxes AND increasing public spending." But this encouragement was quickly dashed, when the economists stated that all of the UE nations that raised taxes, experienced economic slow-downs.

I almost wrecked my car, as I shouted at my radio machine, "tell the whole F'ing story!"

First, while it is true some of these EU nations did raise taxes, it was widely reported that they did so in the most anti-stimulative manner possible ... they raised taxes on the middle and working classes, while leaving the tax rates for the high income earners flat. Secondly, on top of raising taxes on the middle and working classes, these EU nations not only cut public spending on goods and services, they cut spending on governmental employment and their social safety net. (And they wonder why their growth stopped)

How do I know? It was right there in the IMF report that these economists cited!

I asked myself, "when are these economists going to come out and say, what all of their studies indicate: economies grow from the middle out!" Then, it dawned on me ... they can't (and earn a comfortable living). A government economist (earning ~ $80,000) can say this, so can an academic economist (earning ~ $100,000); but no private sector economist/forecaster (earning in the mid to high 6-figures) can/will say, "Don't put money in our (investor-class) hands, put it in the hands of the working class."

Okay ... Rant off.

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Good rant! peacebird Dec 2012 #1
Depth of thought & knowledge will tend to do that to a rant. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #11
National (Re)Public(an) Radio aint what it used to be. Scuba Dec 2012 #2
They6 have masters ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #6
Used to be, hosts would challenge right-wing bullshit. Sadly, those days are over. Scuba Dec 2012 #7
Definitely. I no longer listen to them, it's GOP with soothing voices. freshwest Dec 2012 #14
The AEI, the API, and The Heritage Foundation all approve of this message. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #19
'The man who pays the fiddler picks the tune.' Ownership by the public? Or private? That's the key. freshwest Dec 2012 #20
It's not even hidden anymore. They tell you right up front whose propaganda they are paid to spew. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #23
The same dynamic is played endlessly on cable news. It is from those staged presentations, freshwest Dec 2012 #29
+10000 heaven05 Dec 2012 #43
The BBC hosts on NPR will still do so. JimDandy Dec 2012 #27
I used to listen to NPR, but anymore left/moderate seems to be wrong and right/right seems to RKP5637 Dec 2012 #28
Diane Rehm will sometimes challenge their bullshit. jerseyjack Dec 2012 #41
I've come to call it Nationalist Propaganda Radio stlsaxman Dec 2012 #40
Good post! Middle out, RIGHT! Auntie Bush Dec 2012 #3
Personally, I think that serious entitlement reform is the answer. MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #4
By 'entitlement reform', of course, you meant eliminating government handouts Aristus Dec 2012 #5
Unless ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #8
No, I'm pretty sure that we mean cutting off those other well-funded special interest groups: MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #9
Oh, I see now. Irony. Satire. Aristus Dec 2012 #10
Well, *I'm* being sarcastic. But elected Democrats are not. On MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #12
Yeah, Aristus Dec 2012 #13
Why do you always go there ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #16
Can you point to that definition? MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #32
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #33
I hope you're feeling lucky: MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #37
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #38
always has heaven05 Dec 2012 #45
There's one entitlement reform that really does need to be done... MoonchildCA Dec 2012 #21
And price controls on Medicare Part D equivalent to the VA. TahitiNut Dec 2012 #22
+1 Scuba Dec 2012 #30
CBS This Morning angered me yesterday deutsey Dec 2012 #15
Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #17
I saw that. Hatchling Dec 2012 #34
Wealthy mediawhores discussing the future of the Poor and Middle Cha Dec 2012 #35
"Wealthy...discussing the future of the Poor and Middle Class" jtuck004 Dec 2012 #39
Hear! Hear! grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #18
Often, people say of Cokie Roberts, "But her father was closeupready Dec 2012 #24
More to the point.. how would her father feel about cokie's Cha Dec 2012 #36
Excellent analysis. K & R. Rant away anytime. eom. mojowork_n Dec 2012 #25
does it really pay that well to be a gun for hire? hfojvt Dec 2012 #26
I stand corrected ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #31
the heaven05 Dec 2012 #42
Want good radio? jerseyjack Dec 2012 #44
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