Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

Showing Original Post only (View all)

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:49 PM Dec 2012

My biggest fear about the GOP - they are going to wise up about social issues [View all]

A few decades ago you could say something like 'Abortions' or 'Gays getting Married' and easily scare some undecided voters into voting for the Republicans. But fortunately our country is evolving and these ideas aren't as 'scary' as they use to be ages ago. Even my own parents, who I would have considered 'anti-gay' back in the 80s & 90s now say it's none of their business as long as it's consenting adults. Fortunately attitudes are evolving on many of these social issues.

And yet the GOP still uses these old-fashioned scare tactics thinking that today's voting population thinks the same way they did back decades ago. And this type of campaigning is starting to hurt the GOP. A perfect example is the 2012 senate races. Democrats had twice as many senate seats to keep this past election and yet the managed to make a net gain of +2, a pretty amazing feat. And one of the big factors that helped the democrats was the voters turning off from those candidates who still think it's ok to degrade women, gays & minorities as what is destroying our country.

Thing is this - IF republicans were to give up their war on women, gays & minorities and in fact embrace these groups, I know I for one still wouldn't vote for the GOP. Sure I'd be grateful that they finally embrace equality for all but in the end they'd still fight to give tax cuts to the wealthiest while cutting benefits for those who need it the most.

But consider this. Say that Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock, both GOP losers in their 2012 run for the senate, never made disparaging comments about women and rape. If they never made those comments my guess is that both of them would have won their election. Akin was polling strong against incumbant Claire McCaskill (d) who was considered one of the most vulnerable of the democrat incumbants and Indiana was looking solid red in 2012 (they voted for Romney).

I have to think that as the GOP recovers from 2012 and asks themselves 'What went wrong' they are going to realize that they need to start rethinking their stance on social issues if they want to win elections. If this happens, although grateful for their changes in these areas, they are still not to be trusted with the keys to the piggy bank.

47 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Perhaps North Of The Mason-Dixon Line But Not South of It Vogon_Glory Dec 2012 #1
To be honest of Akin or Mourdock were running in a southern state... LynneSin Dec 2012 #15
If republicans gave up on social issues, they would be a better and more moderate opposition party. sadbear Dec 2012 #2
But they still wouldn't be like the old-timer GOP party LynneSin Dec 2012 #3
And we would be able to fight them on those issues... sadbear Dec 2012 #4
No they won't. So called "economic conservatives" (corporatists, Randist) are just as dangerous. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #13
So basically, they'd be the same as they are now without the pretense of social conservatism. sadbear Dec 2012 #14
Yes. Except a lot smaller and less potent. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #16
I don't see returning to the days of "moderate Republicans" marions ghost Dec 2012 #27
they are in shambles justabob Dec 2012 #29
I hope so marions ghost Dec 2012 #35
That's because the Democrats are the new old Republicans leftstreet Dec 2012 #31
the GOP is so far right it marions ghost Dec 2012 #32
Not really. Their fiscal policies are similar to Dems leftstreet Dec 2012 #45
they might slide more to the middle on economics marions ghost Dec 2012 #46
The need the social nutters to build a coalition of 50% Viking12 Dec 2012 #5
They won't and can't TlalocW Dec 2012 #6
Count on it ,they WILL change Mangoman Dec 2012 #7
I dont believe a socially moderate GOP will overcome the voters needs DJ13 Dec 2012 #8
There will always be new wedge issues. woo me with science Dec 2012 #9
If they did that, they would die a quick death. Guaranteed. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #10
I've always felt that the GOP needed to go left of the Dems... cynatnite Dec 2012 #11
I don't think they're capable of "wising up" any time soon. They can't help themselves. catbyte Dec 2012 #12
I think their problem is simple - this has worked in the past so they assume it'll work today LynneSin Dec 2012 #18
It's not going to happen anytime soon hifiguy Dec 2012 #17
I agree with you Lynne and it concerns me too. LeftInTX Dec 2012 #19
Why? The only thing we'll end up with is a much smaller Republican party. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #20
Possibly attract more Independents and can still keep their base. LeftInTX Dec 2012 #23
But if their policies only benefit 1%-2% of the population, how many Independents could they gain? Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #25
Maybe there aren't enough of them to worry about, but I fear Rs would then gain the support of Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #30
Those that define themselves as democrats would not however.... LynneSin Dec 2012 #24
If they rid themselves of bigotry, their wouldn't be a hairs breadth of distance between leadership. ieoeja Dec 2012 #21
You think those One Percent "Economic Conservatives" aren't bigots? Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #22
2016 may be their best chance to do so. AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #26
Very astute and would be in a sense a Trojan Horse of sorts. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #28
That's an even scarier thought LynneSin Dec 2012 #40
That would be a good thing because social conservatives would finally vote on economic issues JI7 Dec 2012 #33
Fundamentally, they don't believe in equality, so that's going to be a problem bhikkhu Dec 2012 #34
It remains to be seen. there is a civil war in the republican party right now liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #36
I don't see what they can change into Johonny Dec 2012 #37
They're already wising up ibegurpard Dec 2012 #38
Some of them seem to be wising up gollygee Dec 2012 #39
My biggest issue has always been about their idea about smaller government LynneSin Dec 2012 #41
don't forget DHS justabob Dec 2012 #42
The future GOP will be less and less about social issues, they will become libertarians davidn3600 Dec 2012 #43
The standard wedge issues are starting to lose their effectiveness Canuckistanian Dec 2012 #44
When you build a campaign on lies, marions ghost Dec 2012 #47
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»My biggest fear about the...