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(19,768 posts)162. +100. Image at bottom of your post says it all. nt
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"Handguns...exacerbate our flaws, tempt us to escalate arguments, and bait us into embracing.... [View all]
Junkdrawer
Dec 2012
OP
Fact, govt. is not obligated to protect any individual not in custody. Question. who do you expect
jody
Dec 2012
#1
I don't refute any of your bs, I just hope you "accidentally" refute yourself, and it hurts.
xtraxritical
Dec 2012
#51
Are you unable to refute my statements? That seems the case with your ad hominem attacks. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#54
Do you assert that "Handguns" produce those results? What about the other things criminals
jody
Dec 2012
#124
Your so-called "facts" are irrelevant and stupid to this discussion. Red herring, strawmen
morningfog
Dec 2012
#150
I did not say the statements you quote are facts. The facts I gave place the burden of proof on
jody
Dec 2012
#154
Again, this discussion is not about abolishing the right to guns. You are trying to make it that.
morningfog
Dec 2012
#156
You want to change the gun culture. What law do you propose to make that change? nt
jody
Dec 2012
#157
You refuse to acknowledge the obvious. OP introduces gun culture and gun control but no one
jody
Dec 2012
#164
Look at movies, video games and popular music and you will answer your own question.
morningfog
Dec 2012
#195
And where are their charts? I miss those charts! We usually get the same ones in every gun
CTyankee
Dec 2012
#215
guns =/= forks =/= pencils =/= cars & pretending that they do ought to disqualify one to own
patrice
Dec 2012
#260
National Center for Injury Prevention and Control reports Homicide Firearm 11,073 for 2010.
jody
Dec 2012
#176
bullshit. The "inalienable" part is about LIFE. It's one of the first things mentioned
pasto76
Dec 2012
#19
Love how a plea for sanity always brings out the gun nuts ready to defend their stupid worship
abelenkpe
Dec 2012
#26
The unique thing about our government is our Constitution requires it to protect the unalienable
jody
Dec 2012
#120
IMO it was unique in 1776. It's also the longest surviving government, Iceland is questionable, of
jody
Dec 2012
#155
This is the part of your post that is logically wrong (and factually challenged)...
Sancho
Dec 2012
#95
The right to keep and bear arms for self-defense is not limited to firearms. To begin, what federal
jody
Dec 2012
#151
If guns were "the best choice" wouldn't that mean THE most efficacious? Is that the fact? No.
patrice
Dec 2012
#109
Correct, ergo guns don't necessarily accomplish whatever it is that one assumes they
patrice
Dec 2012
#221
I was thinking of defensive tools that recognize the causes of danger, before it's too late.
patrice
Dec 2012
#229
Are you telling me that people with guns don't kill others for anything but self defense? wow. nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#234
Please quote directly what part(s) you can't understand & I will clarify. Thanks. nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#237
What, pray tell, is "natural" about the ability to hurl multiple small pieces of metal at wildly
patrice
Dec 2012
#116
False equivalence. There are significant qualitative differences between tools, otherwise we'd all
patrice
Dec 2012
#220
So a knife is the same thing as an armed drone and, therefore, you have a "right" to use either
patrice
Dec 2012
#226
You said that using tools is a natural ability of homo sapiens and, by implication, that's some kind
patrice
Dec 2012
#236
It's not a non sequiteur (sic) just because you fail to see the connection, in the same manner that
patrice
Dec 2012
#227
You assume that there is one and ONLY one way to defend life, liberty, property etc. & that way
patrice
Dec 2012
#122
How is saying handguns are the best choice not also saying one should do nothing less than the best
patrice
Dec 2012
#239
Tell me why the best choice would not be also the ONLY choice when it comes to "defense". nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#255
Because we have free will, and some people come to different results than others...
PavePusher
Dec 2012
#257
Free will? Let's not go there, rightnow, suffice it to say that I disagree with anyone who disputes
patrice
Dec 2012
#261
Huh? Are you guaranteeing that there are no guarantees? & If you are defending yourself, why
patrice
Dec 2012
#263
Sorry! I couldn't resist that. I actually agree with you. There are only probabilities. nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#264
Are you saying that BECAUSE police use guns, we should too, since police pose a threat to us?
patrice
Dec 2012
#127
So, just how much danger are all of us in, from police & under what circumstances?
patrice
Dec 2012
#243
Or - are you saying that we face the same threats that police do, so we should have guns too?
patrice
Dec 2012
#128
We, ALL of us, live in high probability of direct assault multiple times a day, just like
patrice
Dec 2012
#235
Ah! something we agree upon & which also definitely falls in the category of thinking about
patrice
Dec 2012
#238
People chose to bring themselves closer to the brink by purchasing the gun....
Junkdrawer
Dec 2012
#5
Yes, that is true. People who know they are close to the brink shouldn't buy guns.
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#21
That's because it is a survey paper. There are about 100 citations at the end of it, which
DanTex
Dec 2012
#25
Guns do make people less safe. If you are intent on ignoring the evidence, that's your choice.
DanTex
Dec 2012
#36
I will not ignore any credible study you cite. Problem is you have not yet done so. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#40
Of course, you will simply label any study that contradicts your dogma as "not credible".
DanTex
Dec 2012
#41
Please cite any post in which I said a "study . . . [was] 'not credible'" without disputing the
jody
Dec 2012
#48
Yes, it is. The poster is far too transparent and obvious to be taken seriously.
morningfog
Dec 2012
#140
"hands of those who pulled the trigger" of course were innocent bystanders when that handgun killed
jody
Dec 2012
#142
Why don't you illuminate those who read this thread by providing facts. You can start by
jody
Dec 2012
#111
You keep changing the subject every time you are proven wrong. And now you have ceased making
DanTex
Dec 2012
#115
Freedom of speech = government can't prosecute speech, but employers may regulate workers' speech.
alp227
Dec 2012
#149
What a level headed guy, Jason Whitlock. He needs to keep writing, being read
Dont call me Shirley
Dec 2012
#11
Do you believe Democrat Obama lied when he promised "I will not take your shotgun away, I won't take
jody
Dec 2012
#56
Do you have a quote where Obama evolved by saying in essence "I will take your shotgun away, I will
jody
Dec 2012
#100
I'm in agreement with much of Mr. Whitlock's commentary, however I see it as the culture of violence
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#17
If you didn't know he was a football player, he would have been the last person you expected.
bluedigger
Dec 2012
#53
I didn't know much about him. That is very, no obvious sign of a typical "troubled" youth.
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#59
RE: nuclear weapons. The "Truman needs the test before he confronts Stalin." story tells the tale..
Junkdrawer
Dec 2012
#39
Thanks. I wonder how many know that this was written and earlier published by someone else.
elleng
Dec 2012
#32
In whatever tragic situation, all other factors being the same, it's the presence of a gun that
patrice
Dec 2012
#33
The late-great Paul Newman did one in a series for a group called Cease Fire.....
Junkdrawer
Dec 2012
#47
Football is one of the most violent sports in the world. That man was MADE of violence. The gun is
rDigital
Dec 2012
#88
Actually, from growing up with gun culture, I'd say the gun culture encourages the opposite.
ancianita
Dec 2012
#90
Well hand guns are made for killin' They ain't no good for nothin' else
SomethingFishy
Dec 2012
#104
Not true. It's say, "Fuck economic & social justice" + say, "Guns!" = panic about gun ownership.
patrice
Dec 2012
#133
And it is guns that enables some people to say, "Fuck economic & social justice." nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#138
And those people definitely are not necessarily in law enforcement at Fed or state level as
patrice
Dec 2012
#141
One doesn't need to engage in aberrant behavior to recognize aberrance
DisgustipatedinCA
Dec 2012
#199
Gun CULTURE. Guns have become a part of the Gangsta lifestyle one the one hand....
Junkdrawer
Dec 2012
#180
I find it amazing that no one on TV is addressing the domestic violence part of the story..
rainlillie
Dec 2012
#254