Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Why Does the Media Make Our Generals Into Heroes When the Wars They Commanded Are Failures? [View all]Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)31. I think what is too often
forgotten by those who think Lincoln should have let those southern states secede is the simple fact that the "union" was less than 80 years old at the time.... The precedent would have been disastrous for many reasons, not the least of which is that England was salivating over the possibility of retaking the continent.
The flaws within our constitution, the 3/5th clause i.e., made the Civil War inevitable. However, I'm not at all certain the neophyte nation could have survived the early days without the southern states.
Your thoughts?
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
41 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Why Does the Media Make Our Generals Into Heroes When the Wars They Commanded Are Failures? [View all]
xchrom
Dec 2012
OP
Same reason we still remember Homer's Odysseus, but forget the Peloponesian wars destroyed Greece
leveymg
Dec 2012
#1
Wish you would elaborate on this a bit. Homer was\is a great poet and the
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#14
"History is written by the winners." That includes Thucydides and Herodotus "factual" accounts, as
leveymg
Dec 2012
#17
It's been quite awhile since I read Homer, Herodotus or Thucydides and I may have
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#18
Iraq is within Iran's sphere because the majority of the population is Shi'ia. When Bush overthrew
leveymg
Dec 2012
#21
I agree with you on one level (hence my comment that "perhaps that's as it
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#23
The US armed both sides against each other, and have successively destroyed each. The timeline is
leveymg
Dec 2012
#26
Well, the jury is still out on Iran. Last time I checked it had 1,000,000+ soldiers in its
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#27
There are nightmare scenarios other than a direct invasion of Iran to worry about.
leveymg
Dec 2012
#29
Still working in some quarters for Powell, too. I guess Custer just had lousy P.R.
WinkyDink
Dec 2012
#10
Not only their wars, their own personal fuck-ups: Poppy BUSH; Mc5planes; Shrub; Colon POWELL n/t
UTUSN
Dec 2012
#11
They think we still need father figures, or maybe it's them that like's father figures. nt
bemildred
Dec 2012
#12
According to American mythology, everyone in the military is automatically a hero.
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2012
#41