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Johnny2X2X

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Tue May 7, 2024, 12:13 PM May 7

Was Stormy Daniels raped by Donald Trump? [View all]

Stormy Daniels says she "felt like the room spun in slow motion" when she left the bathroom.

"I felt the blood leave my hands and my feet almost like if you stand up too fast," Daniels says. "I thought, 'oh my God, what did i misread to get here?'"

"At first I was just startled, like a jump scare. I wasn’t expecting someone to be there, especially minus a lot of clothing," she says of Trump, who she says was sitting on the bed in boxers and a T-shirt.

“He stood up between me and the door. Not in a threatening manner. He didn’t come at me, he didn’t rush at me. Nothing like that," Daniels said.

"There was an imbalance of power for sure. He was bigger and blocking the way. I was not threatened verbally or physically," Daniels said. Daniels estimated Trump was "definitely several inches taller, and much larger,"

"I had my clothes and my shoes off. I removed my bra. We were in missionary position," Daniels says. Asked if she remembers how her clothes came off, she says no. "Next thing I know I was on the bed," she testifies.

Stormy Daniels says she remembers sitting at the end of the bed. She says "it was really hard to get my shoe on because my hands were shaking so hard."

"I just left as fast as I could. That was it," she says."I told very few people that we had actually had sex because I felt ashamed that I didn’t stop it," Daniels said.

This sounds very much like rape to me. She was not there for sex, they were not discussing sex, they were discussing business, he was discussin how she got into producing and directing. There was a power imbalance. He strpped when she was in the bathroom. She was almost in shock. Forget for a minute what she does for a living, that has no bearing. If a freind had told me this story, I'd be telling her she needs to think about going to the police. This was not a fling, this was someone tricking a woman and using his power ans stature to pressure her into sex she did not want.

I really feel for Stormy, this was not something she asked for. Not the sex, and not the attention after.

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My bet is that she discusses this Tom of Temecula May 7 #1
Link please !!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! .l ! ! !! ! ! !!!!!!!!! Trueblue1968 May 7 #86
"ashamed that I didn't stop it" mnmoderatedem May 7 #2
And she worked with Ron Jeremy, assumably. Marcuse May 7 #9
I think she did... FarPoint May 7 #12
Be careful. There's a difference between choosing to do things and being coerced. yardwork May 7 #40
I get that mnmoderatedem May 7 #64
And conversely, someone can choose to use sex to gain an advantage without being coerced. meadowlander May 7 #105
She never actually GAVE consent. He just hopped on top of her, DemocraticPatriot May 7 #117
Maybe. LuckyCharms May 7 #3
Agree Johnny2X2X May 7 #18
You are so right wryter2000 May 7 #31
That's what I think after reading this too - TBF May 7 #54
Her testimony makes my heart ache... FarPoint May 7 #50
He's worse than filth. ShazzieB May 7 #81
She was /is very Brave.... FarPoint May 7 #89
She processes her " alert messages" with ambivalence. FarPoint May 7 #4
I have had a date rape incident that FalloutShelter May 7 #5
That is certainly the way it sounds PatSeg May 7 #8
It was a long time ago FalloutShelter May 7 #17
I can understand the "indelible" part PatSeg May 7 #26
Just once was I really scared. He was 21 and MOMFUDSKI May 7 #37
Sixties for me as well PatSeg May 7 #48
Trump even when young was always a big guy, & used his size to get his way... Hekate May 7 #76
It's the kind of thing you cannot forget. MuseRider May 7 #109
Yes, life goes on PatSeg May 7 #111
In retrospect.... FarPoint May 7 #16
I am sorry to hear that...horrible. Demsrule86 May 7 #62
Is this how she described the circumstances before? PatSeg May 7 #6
I remember her saying after she came out of the bathromm gab13by13 May 7 #25
You know, that sounds like what I remember as well PatSeg May 7 #30
It was 18 years ago. I wouldn't read much into an irrelevant detail like that unblock May 7 #71
The spaces around "non/consensual" and "un/wanted" are large and always moving, which is why people are reluctant WhiskeyGrinder May 7 #7
And unwanted penetration, no matter how slight, constitutes Jerry2144 May 7 #11
Both legally and ethically, there is a difference between "unwanted" and "nonconsensual." WhiskeyGrinder May 7 #22
Unwanted penetration isn't rape? There's a jury in NY that would like a word with you. OMGWTF May 7 #52
As I said, it can be, but isn't always. WhiskeyGrinder May 7 #59
Riiiiiight Hekate May 7 #108
It happens. I provided an example in another post: WhiskeyGrinder May 7 #112
But we are not talking about 2 people who are in a relationship, here.... DemocraticPatriot May 7 #120
Daniels says she doesn't consider her experience as rape, so. WhiskeyGrinder May 7 #122
Yeah, Donald Trump says the same thing.... DemocraticPatriot May 8 #125
How exactly can 'unwanted penetration' be consensual ?? DemocraticPatriot May 7 #119
As I say, I've provided an example elsewhere: WhiskeyGrinder May 7 #123
Really? Personally I believe if a person doesn't give permission then it is rape. Demsrule86 May 7 #58
People consent to penetrative sex that they don't necessarily want all the time, for a variety of reasons. WhiskeyGrinder May 7 #63
Semantics. ShazzieB May 7 #87
. WhiskeyGrinder May 7 #90
Thanks for the clarification. ShazzieB May 7 #91
Exactly. DemocraticPatriot May 7 #121
Just as an example, meadowlander May 7 #107
Sicker than we know I'll bet. n/t B.See May 7 #28
My two cents - it sounds like maybe she was drugged, or drunk? FakeNoose May 7 #74
She has already stated it was consensual. Nt Fiendish Thingy May 7 #10
What she described isn't consensual Johnny2X2X May 7 #19
I'll put that in "true, but...." category. Happy Hoosier May 7 #20
It is so much worse if you have feelings for the man...what a betrayal. I was asaulted. But it Demsrule86 May 7 #36
Oh my!!! I'm SOOOO sorry!!! Happy Hoosier May 7 #55
It was rough. I made it through. I wouldn't leave the House withou my parents for a year. Demsrule86 May 7 #60
I was in love with the man who ultimately sexually assaulted me. TSExile May 7 #80
Thank you for sharing that! Happy Hoosier May 7 #82
Thank you... TSExile May 7 #110
She says in her documentary Tree Lady May 7 #13
I seem to remember Jilly_in_VA May 7 #14
"felt like the room spun in slow motion" LiberalFighter May 7 #15
It does sound as if she were drugged. badhair77 May 7 #21
Think About What He Said In The 'Access Hollywood Tape'....... global1 May 7 #27
I would put nothing past him MustLoveBeagles May 7 #32
That's what I thought. The dizziness she described and the gap in her memory. nt pnwmom May 7 #75
She reluctantly consented, and not verbally. pandr32 May 7 #23
I tend to agree, based on the limited knowledge that we have. LuckyCharms May 7 #24
And Trump being Trump PatSeg May 7 #34
He always assumes he will get what he wants. pandr32 May 7 #43
And he probably assumes PatSeg May 7 #93
Absolutely. pandr32 May 7 #96
She was looking for a way out Johnny2X2X May 7 #35
He may have drugged her. Demsrule86 May 7 #29
It sounds like it MustLoveBeagles May 7 #33
I have always thought he is a rapist...I believe his first wife descriped abuse and forced sex Demsrule86 May 7 #39
I remember that MustLoveBeagles May 7 #77
Does anybody still believe that trump will take the stand, in his defense ? republianmushroom May 7 #38
He will not Johnny2X2X May 7 #42
If there is a brain in his atty's head, absolutely not. nt TBF May 7 #57
The humiliation of Slobby continues unabated. NoMoreRepugs May 7 #41
So her story was heartfelt and disturbing Johnny2X2X May 7 #44
wasn't the idea she felt like she needed to if she would have a chance to go on The Apprentice? Definitely coercion LymphocyteLover May 7 #45
Harvey Weinstein comes to mind Johnny2X2X May 7 #49
She didn't want to have sex. Demobrat May 7 #46
That happened to me as a teen Tree Lady May 7 #65
😢 Demobrat May 7 #66
What she does professionally is her choice clearly... Quanto Magnus May 7 #47
It 'may' have been consensual, but she was definitely JCMach1 May 7 #51
She's explicitly stated before that she doesn't consider it rape. tinrobot May 7 #53
She's still coping Johnny2X2X May 7 #56
Exactly. SunSeeker May 7 #67
And The Apprentice was the back drop here Johnny2X2X May 7 #70
Yup. "And if you're a star, they let you do it," i.e. you get away with it. nt SunSeeker May 7 #73
I haven't read any of the background previously - but just reading this excerpt of yours - it's pretty chilling TBF May 7 #61
All women I know have been in that "gray" situation, including me. SunSeeker May 7 #68
Now imagine having to report that as a porn actress... JCMach1 May 7 #69
It's 2024 and a woman's body autonomy is still up for grabs, literally dlk May 7 #72
Exactly Johnny2X2X May 7 #79
I felt the same way after my sexual assault in 2015. TSExile May 7 #78
Most sex workers are inflicted in what is a continuing rape for as long as they are in the "business" ... marble falls May 7 #83
Aside from the other details, "imbalance of power" sounds like rape to me underpants May 7 #84
No. Goodheart May 7 #85
Biden was right, trump really is a sick fuck. Torchlight May 7 #88
was this what she said in court today? or is it from a book she wrote? orleans May 7 #92
This is fucking bullshit DenaliDemocrat May 7 #94
And yet she described sex she didn't want to have Johnny2X2X May 7 #95
She's a grown woman and made a point to state DenaliDemocrat May 7 #98
she's a grifter Skittles May 7 #114
She didn't feel empowered enough to tell him no Warpy May 7 #97
Drugged and raped Ishoutandscream2 May 7 #99
Yes, rape Beck23 May 7 #100
This is what djt's 'sexual encounter' with 'Stormy' looks like to me: Jrose May 7 #101
"If rape is inevitable, you may as well relax and enjoy it." czarjak May 7 #102
Ask her. Lunabell May 7 #103
No Comment n/t Jacson6 May 7 #104
He knew what he was doing. Women know he intended to be intimidating. 58Sunliner May 7 #106
I wouldn't believe much of what either one of them says Skittles May 7 #113
It sounds more like date-rape, which, in the end is rape. Gore1FL May 7 #115
It's not for us to say. Sparkly May 7 #116
Short answer? Yes. angrychair May 7 #118
Trumps a predator...Where's Chris Hansen Tribetime May 7 #124
The 8 ball says ... aggiesal May 8 #126
Yes, it does sound like rape. And of course the precedent was the civil PatrickforB May 8 #127
She spoke her truth SARose May 8 #128
Trump has raped civilization. twodogsbarking May 8 #129
She didn't want it to officially turn into rape so she went along with it ecstatic May 8 #130
It was definitely intimidation... Joinfortmill May 8 #131
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