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MadHound

(34,179 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:11 AM Nov 2012

How many people has your smart phone killed? [View all]

"But here's the catch. Rare earths always occur alongside the radioactive elements thorium and uranium, and safely separating them is a complex process. Miners use heavy machinery to reach the raw ore, which contains anywhere between 3 and 9 percent rare earths, depending on the deposit. Then the ore is taken to a refinery and "cracked," a process wherein workers use sulfuric acid to make a liquid stew of sorts. The process is also hugely water- and energy-intensive, requiring a continuous 49 megawatts (enough to power 50,000 homes) and two Olympic swimming pools' worth of water every day.

Workers then boil off the liquid and separate out the rare earths from rock and radioactive elements. This is where things get dangerous: Companies must take precautions so that workers aren't exposed to radiation. If the tailings ponds where the radioactive elements are permanently stored are improperly lined, they can leach into the groundwater. If they are not covered properly, the slurry could dry and escape as dust. And this radioactive waste must be stored for an incomprehensibly long time—the half-life of thorium is about 14 billion years, and uranium's is up to 4.5 billion years. Reminder: Earth itself is 4.5 billion years old.

Not coincidentally, the refining tends to happen in areas where weak environmental rules mean that companies can process the elements on the cheap. Take the Baotou region of Inner Mongolia, where most of China's rare-earth mines are clustered, and where waste has leached into waterways and irrigation canals, according to several independent investigations. Communities around one former mine in Mongolia blame at least 66 cancer deaths on leaked radioactive waste, and local people complain that their hair and teeth have fallen out."
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2012/11/rare-earth-elements-iphone-malaysia

Our obsession with having the latest and greatest tech gizmo is having a direct impact in countries on the other side of the world. Is this going to be another one of those times when Americans simply shrug and go back to buying a new phone every eighteen months, or will we actually do something constructive, demanding, at the least, that companies operate in a clean and responsible manner. Better yet, will the American public finally stop being fascinated by the latest, greatest shiny new toys and reduce their demand for the labor that is killing people in Asia and elsewhere.

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Why single out smart phones? Computers, hybrid batteries, coffee makers, watches, pacemakers... onehandle Nov 2012 #1
Because unlike computers, coffee makers, pacemakers, etc., MadHound Nov 2012 #2
Makes me feel a bit better... Lizzie Poppet Nov 2012 #10
Well I know republicans won't help out in this case The Straight Story Nov 2012 #12
Since I don't have a 'smart phone' does that mean I'm not an American? Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #13
I hated my Epic 4g, and got Samsung Galaxy 3, and I'm happy with it. Panasonic Nov 2012 #28
At least the article doesn't single out Apple products. NYC_SKP Nov 2012 #3
I'm reading this on an iPhone 5. Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #27
They're a newer technology and thus more convenient to get outraged about. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #19
I give up. How many? Iggo Nov 2012 #4
What, can't read the article? Need everything spoon fed to you? n/t MadHound Nov 2012 #5
You asked. I thought you knew. Iggo Nov 2012 #7
Well, for what it's worth, I buy used phones. I get out of date but badassed Windows phones Edweird Nov 2012 #6
I don't have a cell phone, so zero :) The Straight Story Nov 2012 #8
Likewise! WinkyDink Nov 2012 #24
I asked it, but Fla_Democrat Nov 2012 #9
Just wait until its attorney moves in with you. DevonRex Nov 2012 #26
I don't know...it's next to me at the TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #11
...asks the person using the same technology to make a blog post on a computer. brooklynite Nov 2012 #14
Well, not exactly the same technology, MadHound Nov 2012 #15
My only question is your age. aletier_v Nov 2012 #23
None.. I don't have one..don't want one SoCalDem Nov 2012 #16
At least as many as my car has? Lex Nov 2012 #17
never had one quinnox Nov 2012 #18
I have a dumb phone. undeterred Nov 2012 #20
Dumb phones have rare metals too. nt onehandle Nov 2012 #21
How many animals have you killed eating meat? undeterred Nov 2012 #25
None. I am a vedge! this is temporary. Nov 2012 #31
We have a vegetarian household. onehandle Nov 2012 #33
How many people has your CAR killed? aletier_v Nov 2012 #22
28, but I'm working on my aim. n/t cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #29
Thank you for that article! countryjake Nov 2012 #30
How many people have medical equipment which uses rare earth elements killed? Or how many killed DeschutesRiver Nov 2012 #32
I'll call Siri and ask RobertEarl Nov 2012 #34
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