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HiPointDem

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11. i read it. but i don't get the point. it's someone making fun of 'golden age'
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 06:10 AM
Nov 2012

Last edited Sat Nov 24, 2012, 07:10 AM - Edit history (1)

cookery.


After the Civil War—especially during the period from 1880-1920
—the elites who served as national taste leaders began holding dinner parties with plated courses modeled on the cuisine developed by the Second Estate in France (also known as “dining à la Russe”), following slimming diets in pursuit of the new bodily ideal of thinness, dabbling in the “natural” diets developed by people like John Harvey Kellogg to promote spiritual and physical well-being, and hosting “exotic entertainments” showcasing their increasing knowledge about the fringes of the expanding American empire. These practices were emulated by the emerging professional-managerial class and portrayed as superior to the foods and practices associated with the working classes.

All four trends and discourses receded in popularity during the Great Depression as the plain foods associated with the Home Economics movement were established as the national cuisine. Thus, they (the four trends) seemed new when they re-emerged in the 1980s...

During periods of greater income inequality and relatively low mobility, interest in and anxiety about eating “better” becomes more important to the middle classes. Although they are a minority, their tastes are normative and reflected in mass media and market trends. “Enlightened” eating not only serves to distinguish the middle class from the working and lower classes in the Bourdieuian or Veblenian sense of cultural capital and conspicuous consumption, it also operates as a form of compensatory mobility. The four pillars elevate certain foods and practices over others without reliable evidence, but they nevertheless offer real pleasures and rewards that make them especially compelling for the middle classes when they are not advancing
materially.


deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/2027.42/86292/4/smargot_1.pdf


One of the similarities between the gilded age through the 20s and the 80s through the present is rising inequality and thus, status anxiety.

'plain foods' were a reflection of the depression and war-time/post-war relative equality/mass society.







Does George Bush eating pork rinds count? nt Bonobo Nov 2012 #1
In that 'pork rinds' are a signal to the bloc of voters he's trying to appeal to, HiPointDem Nov 2012 #6
there is no singular food revolution cali Nov 2012 #2
i'm amused by your obsessive need to comment negatively on my posts. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #7
sorry, I don't post negatively or positively depending on who the OP is cali Nov 2012 #12
The section on the Obamas is some of the most racist shite, dressed up in msanthrope Nov 2012 #17
Earlier on in my "eat to live" stage I might have agreed with you. dkf Nov 2012 #3
The writer breaks the 'food revolution' down to 4 pillars. Weight-loss dieting HiPointDem Nov 2012 #5
For me, weight loss dieting = "can't fit clothes" and "too cheap to buy a whole new wardrobe". dkf Nov 2012 #8
It depends on how overweight you are Tobin S. Nov 2012 #13
I find it interesting different families and different cultural expectations exboyfil Nov 2012 #4
I grew up in a family that didn't drink frazzled Nov 2012 #26
I think people are inclined to obsess. Shrike47 Nov 2012 #9
Actually, we all became food snobs because Warpy Nov 2012 #10
i read it. but i don't get the point. it's someone making fun of 'golden age' HiPointDem Nov 2012 #11
We became food snobs in the late 60s and early 70s Warpy Nov 2012 #18
seems to be in accordance with the thesis to me. except for the 'we'. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #22
We have some of those cookbooks at the thrift store! Odin2005 Nov 2012 #41
I saw the whole bunch of them at a thrift shop near me Warpy Nov 2012 #42
K&R Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #14
kick HiPointDem Nov 2012 #15
K&R! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #16
Eating smart makes perfect logical common sense to me. Zorra Nov 2012 #19
not a question of what anyone thinks of you personally. just that the HiPointDem Nov 2012 #20
I can only buy that to a certain extent. Some foods have been scientifically determined to healther Zorra Nov 2012 #23
well...of course, we should never buy anything except to a certain extent. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #24
True. And from the perspective of my cultural background, most anyone who Zorra Nov 2012 #33
if you read the diss, the 'food revolution' she's talking about actually has HiPointDem Nov 2012 #34
From my perspective, this is a form of surveillance induced neurosis ~ Zorra Nov 2012 #35
the 'hippie' thing is included in the diss. it's interesting to hear about your HiPointDem Nov 2012 #36
Yes, we are generally surveilled by others from infancy, and this surveillance regulates our Zorra Nov 2012 #37
thank *you* for *your* thoughtful responses. i enjoy discussing the ideas HiPointDem Nov 2012 #39
This is what find most difficult process: Zorra Nov 2012 #43
It's not a conscious process, as I said before. We may be talking past each other. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #44
I imagine so. Thanks, backatcha! nt Zorra Nov 2012 #46
From the article Tobin S. Nov 2012 #25
Very informative. jsr Nov 2012 #21
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #27
While eating healthy food is preferable rrneck Nov 2012 #28
but the main reason consumption is high while exercise is low is that the HiPointDem Nov 2012 #29
Yep. rrneck Nov 2012 #30
There is no food revolution, any more than there is a clothes revolution bhikkhu Nov 2012 #31
not an article. a dissertation. it includes definitions, pages of them. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #32
sounds like an interesting dissertation fishwax Nov 2012 #38
"Since 1980" = The Yuppies. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #40
fascinating topic, thanks grasswire Nov 2012 #45
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