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Senator Sanders: Let me be clear: NO MORE U.S. funding for Netanyahu's illegal, immoral war [View all]

Let me be clear: NO MORE U.S. funding for Netanyahu’s illegal, immoral, brutal, and grossly disproportionate war against the Palestinian people. Congress must reject any effort to pass $10 billion of unconditional military aid for the right-wing Netanyahu government

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Senator Sanders: Let me be clear: NO MORE U.S. funding for Netanyahu's illegal, immoral war [View all] Donkees Jan 2024 OP

Get yer filibuster on, Bernie! Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2024 #1

Ukraine/Israel/Taiwan funding will pass the Senate, with or without Bernie. tritsofme Jan 2024 #2

Has to get thru the House first. That's not a certainty yet. brush Jan 2024 #3

The House doesn't have to go first. tritsofme Jan 2024 #4

No, but generally the House does on funding bills, but even if the Senate moves first... brush Jan 2024 #5

Sort of, the Senate can strip out any House passed funding bill tritsofme Jan 2024 #6

My point is both the Sernate and the House have to approve of the bill before it goes to the president. brush Jan 2024 #7

I'm not sure why you thought the need to point that out, but thanks. tritsofme Jan 2024 #8

Article I, Section 7. ... Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2024 #15

In practice if origination is a concern, the Senate can strip out any House passed revenue bill tritsofme Jan 2024 #17

I always wonder why people blame whoever is president for the budget deficit ? MichMan Jan 2024 #34

The President submits a budget. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2024 #69

Congress is under no obligation to introduce it for a vote as submitted MichMan Jan 2024 #70

That's where negotiation and compromise come in, a.k.a., politics. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2024 #71

"Raising revenue" brooklynite Jan 2024 #44

You can't spend it if you don't "raise" it. It's all ear-marked. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2024 #68

There's a Senate workaround for the issue of origination. lapucelle Jan 2024 #45

I agree with bernie Trueblue1968 Jan 2024 #9

I also agree with Bernie TomDaisy Jan 2024 #89

Meh. It's false. It's untrue. It's not "a war against the Palestinian people" * Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #10

so many RW Israelis absolutely look at it as a war on all of the Gazans and/or all Palestinians Celerity Jan 2024 #11

Meh. TLDR. 🙄 Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #13

in other words, you cannot rebut it Celerity Jan 2024 #21

Many Israelis do not. paleotn Jan 2024 #30

the ones quoted are power brokers, many of them in Netanyahu's RW coalition, a coalition in control of the war Celerity Jan 2024 #32

319 House Republicans. 50 Republican Senators. Umpteen Republican state legislators, governors.... paleotn Jan 2024 #33

non sequitur Celerity Jan 2024 #39

Can you judge America by the party of Trump? Just answer the question. paleotn Jan 2024 #47

Gish gallop, by its very nature * Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #55

Exactly. The only way to beat the Gish Gallop is to be very simple and very direct. paleotn Jan 2024 #58

No it is not. You either clearly do not understand the definition of Gish gallop or are wilfully misusing the term. Celerity Jan 2024 #59

Uh-huh. Noted. 🙄 Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #61

Cut and Paste is my longtime nickname for your interlocutor. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #83

Yes * Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #85

Definitely not alone! betsuni Jan 2024 #87

It is not 'the same stuff on every post' and your question is not germane to the discussion. It is sophistry, an attempt Celerity Jan 2024 #56

Not deflection. Simple question. Can you judge all of America by the party of Trump? paleotn Jan 2024 #57

I never judged all of Israel. I did not do so for the same logical reasoning I do not judge all of America by the 'party Celerity Jan 2024 #60

Good. That was all I was getting at. paleotn Jan 2024 #66

Thanks for your patience and integrity in this and other threads. Much appreciated. TheRickles Jan 2024 #75

They can't refute a single thing you presented, and so try to flip the argument and present strawman replies TiberiusB Jan 2024 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jan 2024 #39

So who is judging Israelis collectively? markpkessinger Jan 2024 #93

No. In other words, gish gallop is a waste of my time * Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #54

If you're going to use a phrase as an attempt at rebuttal, it is on you to at least use it correctly. Celerity Jan 2024 #63

No. Actually, no argument or "rebuttal" is needed (or warranted or deserved) * Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #72

Now we can add 'ad hominem' to the list of concepts you either do not understand or wilfully misuse. Celerity Jan 2024 #73

Nope. Too funny! 🤣😂🤣 Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #74

No Kidding OK. Cha Jan 2024 #67

Honest appraisal means nothing to you? nt PufPuf23 Jan 2024 #50

How amusing! 🤣😂 Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #80

So, sez you was taken? Doc Sportello Jan 2024 #77

Yawn. 🥱😴 Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #81

Thank you. niyad Jan 2024 #25

Yikes!! Well that is awfully clear. It sounds like genocide. No doubt TeamProg Jan 2024 #28

Ethnic cleansing and malaise Jan 2024 #37

umm sorry the killers are responsible for those they kill, both israelis and hamas. nice try tho nt msongs Jan 2024 #14

LOL 🙄 Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #16

But WE ARE NOT funding Hamas. What kind of argument is that? TeamProg Jan 2024 #27

truth TomDaisy Jan 2024 #94

Innocent Palestinians are dying by the thousands. The IDF is not selectively killing Hamas. nt pnwmom Jan 2024 #20

Exactly. nt TeamProg Jan 2024 #29

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It's what he does edisdead Jan 2024 #43

The best politicians do what's possible, rather than aiming for the impossible and achieving nothing * Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #62

Thank you, once again Sen. Bernie talking sense. mysteryowl Jan 2024 #12

I bet this is how Joe Biden threads this needle Arazi Jan 2024 #18

Nah, I don't think Sanders desires here are at all relevant to how Biden will handle the issue. tritsofme Jan 2024 #22

I don't think it's like that but the surprise is that you are saying TeamProg Jan 2024 #31

I have no sympathy for the Likud party or Netanyahu tornado34jh Jan 2024 #19

Senator Sanders, in this case, speaks for me Celerity Jan 2024 #23

I stand with Senator Sanders. Enough is enough. flashman13 Jan 2024 #24

Thank you Bernie! TeamProg Jan 2024 #26

A source told me that a big scoop will soon drop malaise Jan 2024 #36

I bet! lol tritsofme Jan 2024 #48

Thak you Faux pas Jan 2024 #38

Thank you, Bernie! Sky Jewels Jan 2024 #41

Netanyahu and the Likud party are / have been complicit in war crimes. Oneironaut Jan 2024 #46

And when Hamas launched rockets into Israel previously? edisdead Jan 2024 #49

Well claudette Jan 2024 #52

Of course those were war crimes. But that doesn't justify pnwmom Jan 2024 #64

Well I say claudette Jan 2024 #51

Totally Agree!! Netanyahu will keep the war going just to stay out of jail. walkingman Jan 2024 #53

Always happy that a Democrat won the nomination Mountainguy Jan 2024 #65

I know, right? Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #91

The US is going to have to decide whether or not it will facilitate ethnic cleansing. David__77 Jan 2024 #76

I usually agree with Bernie. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2024 #78

Agreed. There can be no long term peace as long as Hamas exists Amishman Jan 2024 #88

It'll pass and as is often the case Bernie is off the mark. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #82

Thank you Bernie SqueakyWheel.363 Jan 2024 #84

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Bernie is correct on this one. radius777 Jan 2024 #90

yes TomDaisy Jan 2024 #95

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Netanyahu should be tried for treason since he was aware of the potential attack long before it happened elocs Jan 2024 #96