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dsc

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Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:45 PM Nov 2012

Why we don't have to worry about Husted's Ohio idea (splitting up the EV) [View all]

In the modern era only the GOP has depended on Ohio not the Democrats. The closest that Democrats have come to depending on Ohio was in 1976, when Ohio had 25 WV and Carter had 297 EV. But under the division by district we would have lost far fewer than 25 EV. We won 10 CD that year and 7 of those were at least 60/40. Assume Carter only manage to win the 60/40 ones, we still would get 9 EV with the GOP getting 16. Instead of 297, Carter now has 281 and still wins.

The GOP on the other hand counted on Ohio twice (2000, and 2004). Bush got 271 EV, Gore 266, one abstained. Ohio had 21 EV. Democrats won 8 CD that year with none being even remotely close. But let's assume somehow Gore lost two of the 8 with no gains in the GOP districts. Gore now gets 6 EV to Bush's 15. Gore now wins with 272 EV without Florida. Yes, the Husted plan would have cost the GOP the election.

Kerry won 251 EV vs Bush's 286 with Ohio having 20 EV. Dems won 6 CD that year with GOP winning 12. So it wouldn't have cost Bush his reelection but it would have cut the margin from 35 to 24.

The GOP knows these numbers, Husted's plan is going no where.

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I disagree. If they want games like that then get rid of the electorial college, and do just the still_one Nov 2012 #1
I do worry about say PA doing this dsc Nov 2012 #2
under Husted's plan, Romney would have won this election CreekDog Nov 2012 #8
If he were king of the universe dsc Nov 2012 #13
I think you mean Obama would have had 317 SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #14
that's not what Think Progress says and please don't tell me what *not* to worry about CreekDog Nov 2012 #28
that is assuming they are psychic dsc Nov 2012 #29
you keep saying what they won't do and you just don't know what they won't do CreekDog Nov 2012 #30
they won't do it because they aren't stupid dsc Nov 2012 #31
won't the doj have to approve since ohio is now subject to oversight for irregularities? eom ellenfl Nov 2012 #3
I am not sure dsc Nov 2012 #17
i guess not . . . it's not retroactive. bummer. something needs to be done. eom ellenfl Nov 2012 #33
DoJ has no say over how states allocate their electoral votes SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #19
I actually think we might see SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #4
I can't imagine Florida doing it dsc Nov 2012 #7
The reason I say FL SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #11
Well, actually, we know that the GOP didn't actually win it in 2000. Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #16
I would welcome proportional electoral votes based on the popular vote... Swede Atlanta Nov 2012 #5
I agree SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #10
No state will do that as it would pretty much end it as a state to contest dsc Nov 2012 #15
NE and ME both split by Congressional district SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #18
that is way different that proportional dsc Nov 2012 #20
It's just another method of proportional SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #22
No it isn't dsc Nov 2012 #25
Then you may want to notify the Federal Register and tell them that they're wrong SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #26
yes dsc Nov 2012 #27
And the NE/ME model is what Husted is proposing n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #23
I know that but he won't do it dsc Nov 2012 #24
that is way different that proportional dsc Nov 2012 #21
NE doesn't split their votes that way. justice1 Nov 2012 #34
Two things dsc Nov 2012 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Nov 2012 #37
wow, you sure spoke with confidence about something you couldn't predict CreekDog Jan 2013 #39
No state has done it yet dsc Jan 2013 #40
Gerrymandering electoral votes mick063 Nov 2012 #6
The Constitution is agnostic on how electoral votes are allocated SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #9
Saw this on Reddit earlier...redistrictinggame.org justice1 Nov 2012 #12
The presidential vote would merely reflect the Congressional vote, HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #32
THey don't just want to split the EV, but to gerrymander it so they can get the majority of EV even Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 #36
are you so sure now? CreekDog Jan 2013 #38
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