Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
15. 144,000 is in Revelation 7:3
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:48 AM
Nov 2012
1After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, so that no wind would blow on the earth or on the sea or on any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the rising of the sun, having the seal of the living God; and he cried out with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3 saying, “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees until we have sealed the bond-servants of our God on their foreheads.” 4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/144000_(number)

It is obviously intended to be symbolic -- 144,000 is 12,000 for each of the 12 tribes of Israel -- but some folks can't seem to take anything metaphorically, even in Revelation.
Your brother sounds great! BainsBane Nov 2012 #1
There's only 144,000 slots in heaven according to Mormons? Who came up with such a limit? nt Selatius Nov 2012 #2
Was wondering the same!!! elleng Nov 2012 #3
Who the heck knows but - LiberalElite Nov 2012 #4
Well, nothing like someones' myths: elleng Nov 2012 #5
I think the person at the door must have been a Jehovah's Witness UtahLib Nov 2012 #7
Yeah, I have the same feeling.. When I saw that limited number I thought.. Cha Nov 2012 #10
and Jehovah Witnesses don't believe in patriotic songs. It's against their religion. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2012 #24
144,000 is in Revelation 7:3 On the Road Nov 2012 #15
And in the New Testament, love God and love one another. MissMarple Nov 2012 #20
Here is the standard understanding of the verse, encompasing both 144 and 1000 grantcart Nov 2012 #26
It's just gross Kennah Nov 2012 #17
Order now!! Supplies are limited!! Thor_MN Nov 2012 #19
The whole "Born again" movement is based on this AgingAmerican Nov 2012 #21
The Bible did: freshwest Nov 2012 #22
And there are 14 million Mormons around the world. baldguy Nov 2012 #25
Those were not Mormons, but Jehovah's Witnesses. grantcart Nov 2012 #6
These are his words. I'm in China. I'm just dictating back. Suji to Seoul Nov 2012 #9
I have had a lot of experience with both groups and couldn't disagree more. grantcart Nov 2012 #11
Appreciate the links. freshwest Nov 2012 #23
Mormons do not have a limit and there are many good people who are Mormon: Reid, for one. Hamlette Nov 2012 #16
My aunt was a Jehoviah's Witnesse. They believe in the 144,000 limit also. appleannie1 Nov 2012 #8
Mormons don't believe in the 144,000 'limit' Mormons are not 'literal' interpreters of the Bible grantcart Nov 2012 #12
Has LDS and JW checked with each to make sure they aren't claiming dibs on the same seats? Kennah Nov 2012 #18
Very well written. wake.up.america Nov 2012 #13
I just LMAOed IRL. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #14
Is that where the 144K came from? DCKit Nov 2012 #27
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»My brother in Arizona has...»Reply #15