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kpete

(71,993 posts)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:24 PM Nov 2012

This story line that Romney and his team were shell-shocked is a load of bullcrap. [View all]

Pollsters Helped the Republicans
by BooMan
Sun Nov 11th, 2012 at 11:32:34 AM EST

It is very interesting to peruse Nate Silver's post-mortem analysis of the pollsters. The thing that really stands out for me is that, among the most active pollsters, there was only one (Pharos Research Group) that showed a significant skew toward Obama, and that pollster had been flagged as unreliable by Mr. Silver and was not used in his model. The other three pollsters who showed any Democratic skew were basically accurate (RAND Corporation: +1.5%, Quinnipiac +0.3%, and We Ask America +0.1%). By contrast, all other frequent pollsters showed a Republican skew, and the most respected (Gallup) showed the worst skew of all (an astonishing +7.2%). American Research Group (+4.5%) and Rasmussen (+3.7) were also pathetic.

Nate has some observations about polling methodology that you may find interesting, but he doesn't discuss the subject that interests me. What I want to know is what benefit Romney received from the systemic skew of the polls in his favor. If the polls had been accurate, the race would have been considered uncompetitive all throughout the fall, leading to much lower fundraising and enthusiasm on the Republican side. In short, the polls were bullshit, and they created a bullshit picture. No one wants to admit that at least some of the pollsters were intentionally wrong, but that is obviously the case with Rasmussen, ARG, and Gallup. It also appears to have been the case with Romney's internal pollsters, at least to the degree that they released information to their donors.

This story line that Romney and his team were shell-shocked is a load of bullcrap. They have have underestimated Obama's ground game, but not by seven points. They told this lie to keep the money flowing and to keep the media from calling the race early. And I think it enabled them to keep the House.

And I'm pissed.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/11/11/113234/92

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Correct Iggy Nov 2012 #1
They knew months ago. jsr Nov 2012 #2
If Gallup doesn't change their methodology, they should be ignored from now on. reformist2 Nov 2012 #3
Gallup will be toast soon unless they change. They were wrong in 2008 too. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #15
I think that the Romney team and his supporters really thought he was winning with momentum. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #4
I think it is possible they really were shell shocked Liberal1975 Nov 2012 #5
This is plausible. Plus, Obama kept most of his work "in-house" Merlot Nov 2012 #17
I agree... Spazito Nov 2012 #6
So it was all about maintaining the House. Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #7
I don't buy it. Romney would have had a concession speech ready. Qutzupalotl Nov 2012 #8
Watch and see as the Wellstone ruled Nov 2012 #9
I think the biggest sin of all is how they duped Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #10
They were terrified Aerows Nov 2012 #11
I buy it. cleduc Nov 2012 #12
What strikes me is any use of 'shell-shocked' in reference to chickenhawk Romney pinboy3niner Nov 2012 #13
Thread winner (as usual). I am in total awe - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #24
Same thing I said in another post a couple of days ago. IL Lib Nov 2012 #14
Gerrymandering allowed the GOP to retain the House. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #16
Joe Wilson is still in his seat? Ruby the Liberal Nov 2012 #19
Yep. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #22
The most convincing lie is the one that you trick yourself into believing aletier_v Nov 2012 #18
Keepiong the voter intent to vote alive is the likeliest reason to conflate a losing situation. Coyotl Nov 2012 #21
I keep thinking Romneys thought they were going to win.. Cha Nov 2012 #20
I rate Booman highly, and usually agree with him. Denzil_DC Nov 2012 #23
RMoney was able to ignore contradictory polling evidence because of coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #25
I don't know... tavernier Nov 2012 #26
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